They either will eventually get tired of being wrongheadede angry assholes all the time or they will eventually die pathetic and miserable. That is all up to themselves.

They really have no tether to external reality that they accept, unless it feeds their foolish sick fetishes. So sadly, call me cynical, but I don’t see how those that are still Birthers are reachable at all, because they don’t accept rationality nor reasonableness.

But that still leads me to wonder if it’s possible to penetrate the Birther skull by using Birther matter. Kinda like how Mr. Incredible did to destroy the indestructible machine. Is the Birther skull divisible? Can Birther-think be reversed in polarity to fire back and penetrate itself?

There are so many questions as one explores the alter-universe.

Actually, I’d bet Steven Hawking would quickly grasp that BHO is eligible, so you don’t even need to be ambulatory.

I can hear his synthesized voice now:

“No material in the known universe– not the heart of a neutron star, not the horrific density of a black hole, nothing we have yet seen with our instruments or imagined in our calculations– is as unnaturally impenetrable as the skull of a Birther.”

The “legally valid” conclusion that follows the factual verification is set forth in the second sentence of the statute (as you’ve noted):

(b) A verification shall be considered for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur and that the facts of the event are as stated by the applicant.

1. SOS Bennett requested verification of a factual claim, i.e., that Barrack Obama II was born in Hawaii.
2. Dr. Onaka verified that fact per the “original record” (his wording; not “amended” or “superseded” record or anything like that mentioned) of the State of Hawaii.
3. By statute, that verification is “for all purposes certification that the vital event did occur . . . as stated by the applicant.” So President Obama’s birth in Hawaii is thus established per the records of the State of Hawaii.
4. Under the Constitution, each state is obligated to give full faith and credit to the “public acts [and] records” of every other state.

Game, set and match as far as the question of President Obama’s U.S. birth goes.

BDZ gets off-track in the same way many Birther arguments do: creation of sub-categories and distinctions that aren’t seen by the rest of sentient human beings. (I loved your “Mimsy” comparison). The specific error BDZ makes is seen here:

Bennett additionally requested that Onaka “please verify the following items from the record of birth” (file #, time of birth, hospital, etc). That could be interpreted to mean either “verify as legally true” or “verify that these claims are ON the record of birth”.

There is no “either” here. Nothing in the Hawaii Statute speaks of something being verfiied as “legally true” (aside from the matter of what she means by that term). The statute only speaks of verification of factual claims the applicant submits (her second category). BDZ invents the first category in an attempt to create an “argument from silence” toward her “indirect verification” silliness.

Anyone with a legal background will understand that a fact witness (like the person attesting vital records information) cannot testify on a question of law (here, the legal import of the facts). If by “legally true” BDZ means something like “attest to the probative value of the facts verified” (which comes closer to how a court might define it), then it’s not for Dr. Onaka to speak on that (and, to repeat, the statute does not require that to be stated). Though I suspect that what BDZ means by “legally valid” is closer to “epistemic certainty” (meaning that every original document has been examined and its bona fides have been established beyond all doubt). Since for the conspiratorially-minded person like BDZ such proof is impossible (since Hawaii is already in on the conspiracy and since even ‘independent’ voices (like experts and judges) are soon silenced by these mysterious bogeymen who come in the night), it’s a game of moving goalposts.

All sensible people agreeing doesn’t get the adrenalin flowing.

I think this means that Onaka wins since his verification of the document beats, well, a big nothing.

I am feeling a bit down today as Pambo chose to insult others besides me. Makes me feel like I should go eat some creamed fish.

Come out of the closet and tell tea-tards of your “inner self” if you dare. I know…that would cause you listenership to dwindle, but be true to thine own self and you can MAKE A MARK!

Yes, that was a pun.

Well that’s funny. THAT happens to be the point that our side has been trying to tell you loser Birther fools all along in regards to your wasted wild goose chase over PDFs.

And the original HAS been verified – repeatedly – by the OFFICIAL HI authorities in charge of it. So boo-hoo to you, you loose again.

In regards to the rest of your latest weird little tantrum, I don’t know what to tell you. If you are insinuating that Monkey Boy and I are somehow one and the same, or even coordinating…

…well, then as usual, you are sadly mistaken and delusional. While I enjoy his posts, our writing styles are nothing alike and our points on this forum often address very different aspects. There is simply no connection nor coordination there, sorry.