The Demonization of Birthers (Or, How the Obots Dull Occam’s Razor!)

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If you believe in Yin and Yang, or maybe even Sir Isaac Newtons Laws of Science, then for every force, there is an equal opposing force. Nowhere is this more evident than in the current “Birther” questions. Birthers fall into two distinct schools of thought. One is the “common sense suspicious” Birthers (QUESTIONERS) like me, who don’t think Obama has ever truly resolved the question of where he was born. Because if he was born in Kenya, then he is probably not eligible to be president. Obama did release a alleged copy of his short form birth certificate to some group who put a PICTURE of it on the Internet, but he has never released his long form birth certificate or just given a certified copy over for public inspection. The second type of Birther is the “Legal” Birther who thinks that because of Obama’s NON-American Citizen father, he is not eligible to be president, no matter where he was born. I belong to the first school, and I am a lot more interested in WHY Obama has not resolved this very simple question, than I am WHERE he was born.

Anyway, you can see that both of these schools of Birther thought are questions where answers are possible. For us QUESTIONERS, a valid long form birth certificate would work. Or a certified copy of the short form in PUBLIC. The LEGAL Birthers probably need a court decision. In my opinion, the LEGAL question has already been answered by a court case in one sentence, and if Obama was born here in America, then he is a legal president no matter who his parents were. But it was a state case, and the LEGAL Birthers are not satisfied with it.

Soooo, what this boils down to are simple questions and simple answers. There is a thing called Occam’s Razor, which I looked up last night on wiki, and what it says is “Of two equivalent theories or explanations, all other things being equal, the simpler one is to be preferred.” (Actually, there is a whole lot more to it than this, and I must have read it like three times, but the above quote is how people usually mean it.)

Occam’s Razor would indicate the simple answer to the Birther questions are simple things like a document or two, or a court decision. This view has been given a lot of credibility recently by Chris Matthews and Gov. Neil Abercrombie of Hawaii (two very avid NON-Birthers) who call for the release of Obama’s birth certificate. But instead of accepting this simple answer, the Obots (anti-Birther supporters of Obama) have just dulled Occam’s Razor to where it couldn’t cut butter by making up all kinds of scientifically unnecessary reasons to explain away the Birthers.

For example, a well known Obot website ran this quote, and a story about it to boot:

Quote of the Day

And I would say, anybody who’s promoting the birther issue has some kind of animosity towards Barack Obama’s lineage. There’s no other way you could accept it, because it’s kooky to be pushing this notion that the president is not an American and is lying about being born in Hawaii.

Douglas Brinkley, professor of history and director of the Eisenhower Center for American Studies at the University of New Orleans

This is where the opposing force stuff comes in. Because the opposing force to the Demonization of the Birthers is The Canonization of the Obots. This is something I think is largely responsible for the 2 1/2 year life span so far of the Birther Question. Because rather than approach this as a simple question with simple answers, Obots have looked upon this as a chance to canonize themselves. Or make themselves look like saints.

Sooo, if a Birther wants to see a Long Form Birth Certificate, there is a preference for the response of “You’re a racist!” rather than the simple “OK, here is a long form.” Because the person calling us racists, gets to be a SAINT! An anti-racist. A tolerant good individual!

If a Birther is curious why Obama hasn’t released a long form yet, the answer isn’t “OK, here is a long form.” The answer will be “You Birthers are crazy! Nothing will ever satisfy you!” Because rather than resolve the issue, the Obots are seeking external validation of their status as smart, well-informed members of society who are just oh sooo reasonable in contrast to us drooling rabid crazy Birthers who think it is silly not to cough up a document.

That is one reason why there hasn’t been a good answer in over 2 1/2 years. The problem has gotten tangled up in the egos of the Obots. Resolving the questions means an end to the Obot self-aggrandizement. Maybe if we call somebody in Rome, and get the Obots an official Saint status, we can get the simple answers. In the meantime, don’t try to spread the butter with the Obot’s Occam’s Razor. It isn’t sharp enough. I wonder if there is a Occam’s Golfclub for the Obots???

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

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9 responses to “The Demonization of Birthers (Or, How the Obots Dull Occam’s Razor!)

  • Ellen1

    The reason that scores of senators and congressmen say that Obama was born in Hawaii and none are calling for an investigation of his place of birth is that the evidence that he was born in Hawaii is overwhelming.

    WND has reported that the US Immigration and Naturalization Service checked on Obama’s place of birth TWICE, with five years between the two checks, and each time it concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii. WND then asked how the INS concluded that fact. The answer to that question is obvious. What does the INS normally do to check the place of birth? It asks for the birth certificate. So the US government, the US INS, in the 1960s and 1970s asked to see Obama’s birth certificate, saw it, and concluded that Obama was born in Hawaii.

    This fits with the fact that Obama has now shown both his short-form and long-form birth certificates, which THREE Republican officials in Hawaii have stated are accurate regarding the place of birth.

    And it fits with the notices of birth in the Hawaii newspapers in 1961. The claim that the notices could have been placed by lying relatives turns out to be false because whenever there was a claim of a birth outside of a hospital, Hawaii insisted on a witness statement.

    Both the INS findings and the birth certificates fit also with the fact that no 1961 US travel document for Obama was found.

    You know, of course, that if a child is born outside of the USA, the US insists on either a US visa on a foreign passport or the child being entered on his mother’s US passport before being allowed to enter the USA. If such a document existed for Obama in 1961–PARTICULARLY if the birth was in Kenya–it would have been filed away, and the application for it would have been filed away–and the document itself or the application for it would have been found long ago.

    Also, there is NO Kenyan document (except for obvious forgeries). And, there is NO Kenyan document even showing that Obama’s mother was in Kenya in 1961.

    Obama’s Kenyan grandmother said repeatedly in the taped interview that he was BORN IN HAWAII, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter FROM HAWAII.

    NO WONDER that Ann Coulter, Glenn Beck and Bill O’Reilly all call birthers “crazy.” No wonder all those congressmen and senators think that Obama was born in Hawaii. They think that the world is round too, and that 2+1=3.

  • Squeeky Fromm - Girl Reporter

    Hi Ellen1!!!

    This Internet Article was originally written in January 2011 on the Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter WordPress website. It was put on The Birther Think Tank in February 2011.

    Three days after Obama released his long form birth certificate, I recognized it as a valid document. (Even though I think the image was manipulated sooo that Obama could keep the issue alive to distract Democrats from his crummy record.)

    Plus, I have NEVER been a Vattle Birther and have written two Internet Articles critical of them which are on this website, too. I will probably have to do some more in the future because I don’t think the Supreme Court is going to address this stuff.

    The Demonization Internet Article really isn’t about Birthers, though. It is about how the Obotski have reacted to Birtherism, why they have done it, and how this has kept this issue MORE alive and kicking for sooo long.

    That kind of stuff is why I am keeping The Birther Think Tank open because Birtherism is perfect issue to study all about politics and psychology and stuff. But that is not all that I am interested in sooo, I have other websites like :

    http://squeekyfromm.posterous.com/

    and

    http://squeekonomics.wordpress.com/

    and music review sites (that I am way behind on) so that I don’t get bogged down in all this stuff.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  • Ellen1

    Hi Squeeky:

    It is good that you were never a Vattel birther. That is the bottom.

    Still, you probably continued to cry out “where is the birth certificate” even after three Republican officials said that the facts on the COLB were accurate. The transcript of the grandmother saying that Obama was born in Hawaii had been around, and so had the Hartford Courant article in which she said that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.

    When people who realized that the word was round called the ones that continued to insist that the earth was flat stupid, they were not “demonizing” them. They were pointing out their lack of thinking.

    Regards
    Ellen

  • Squeeky Fromm - Girl Reporter

    Which would you rather be:

    1. Suspicious and wrong.
    2. Trusting and wrong.

    When Obama held back for THREE YEARS putting out a $14 document, then I was suspicious. I developed the KISS Matrix to cover the possible reasons why he did not cough it up. The important point of it was, that there was no GOOD reason not to cough it up. To me, understanding that was worth being called “stupid.”

    Frankly, I don’t trust Republicans much more than I trust Democrats. Sooo, why was “trust” even necessary if there was a document with more verifiable info on it??? That is the “Big Picture”, to ask why you are someplace in the first place—so I asked WHY am I having to trust somebody??? Either there is a long form document or there isn’t.

    Maybe I was wrong to doubt, but I don’t think I was stupid or crazy.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  • Ellen1

    Obama did not hold back for three years. He posted the OFFICIAL birth certificate of Hawaii, the Certification of Live Birth more than two and a half years ago, and three Republican officials confirmed the facts on it.

    There were many excellent reasons to show only the OFFICIAL birth certificate. First, it was the one that Hawaii sent to Obama. Second, it is the official BC, the one that thousands of people in Hawaii use to get their US passports every year. Third, there is the confirmation of the three Republican officials. That means that the short-form BC was the right birth certificate to show legally, and that it was sufficient to show it.

    I don’t trust Democrats more than Republicans, but the fact that three officials stated in writing that there was nothing wrong with Obama’s BC is significant. For that matter, there must have been a fourth, the clerk who filled out the form that generated the Certification. He or she also saw the original BC, and that the facts on it were the same as on the short-form.

    Moreover, the Kenyan grandmother had said in the taped interview that Obama was born in Hawaii, and she said in another interview (Hartford Courant) that the first that her family in Kenya had heard of Obama’s birth was in a letter from Hawaii.

    • Squeeky Fromm - Girl Reporter

      All that is true, but how do you judge whether what you do is effective or not??? Do you just look at what you do, or do you look at the results???

      Sooo, after you rock along for two years, and 58% of Americans have some degree of doubt where you were born, and a big election is coming up, then a COMPETENT person would start questioning themselves. Unless they are playing some weird kind of game.

      Now, that Obama has released a long form, what has happened??? The number of Birthers has dropped about in half. The short form didn’t have that result, sooo what is it that worked??? Putting out a $14 document worked, and it would have worked better if Obama had not waited sooo long. Which is all pretty common sense.

      Even I am in POST-Birtherism mode. So the real question you should ask is this, “Why did it take so long to do this simple thing???” And that is a very interesting question the more you think about it.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

  • Ellen1

    It took so long to do that simple thing because the short-form birth certificate was the official birth certificate, and it was the right birth certificate to show. The fact that birthers lied and said that it was not a birth certificate or that Hawaii issued such documents to people who were not born in Hawaii (both of which are LIES) accounts for the Americans who were mislead. When you have people continually lying, and they have a big distribution through their Web sites, some people will believe them. This is known as the “big lie” approach.

    Now birthers are lying and claiming that the long-form birth certificate is forged. They continue to lie and say that Obama was adopted (which is not true, but it would have no effect even if it were true) or that he became a citizen of Indonesia (which also is not true, and can be checked easily by calling the Indonesian Embasssy. A girl reporter (or any reporter) should know how to do that, ask for the PRESS OFFICER.)

    • Squeeky Fromm - Girl Reporter

      It is like that Koan I did on The Vine of Much Itching. No matter how the vine got there, once it was there it needed to be dealt with.

      I think Obama intentionally manipulated the Long Form to keep the issue alive, but i think the target is not us “RWNJ’s” but the Democrats. I think that the Birther Issue is the bone he is throwing you so you won’t pay as much attention to his failures and broken promises.

      I am deep into Post-Birtherism, and now I am going after the Vattle Birthers. That ought to be interesting.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

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