There are two kinds of Birthers, the smart ones who just have a healthy skepticism about government and documents, and the stupid ones who think it takes two citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. I call the second kind Vattle Birthers because of their worship of Emerich Vattel, a 300 year old dead Swiss guy, who they say the Constitution based it’s natural born citizen language on.
Now, most people are familiar with cults, and there are a lot of websites that tell you how to identify them. But, in the past these cults had to exist on an in-person level. Cults had their own little camp or compound, and they could just whisk somebody away and brainwash them in person. This website has a lot of information on your average run-of-the-mill cult:
With the Internet, however, there is no longer a need to actually physically recruit or manage cult members. Now it can all be done online. As far as I know, this is the first Internet Article to deal with Internet Cults, and the changes in how to identify this new kind of cult. For example, cults no longer have to physically isolate its members from their families. The cult can do the same thing by occupying the cult member’s time in the pursuit of whatever the cult objective is. One objective I think the website above either omitted, or did not identify better, is the desire of the cult leader and his inner circle to get some R-E-S-P-E-C-T. . .RESPECT, that is, to be recognized as some sort of great leader or authority on something.
Before the Internet, a cult leader would do better if he had some kind of physical presence or physical charisma. After the Internet, a cult leader has the ability to sit home in his or her underwear at a keyboard and move mountains so to speak. But the problem is, how do you identify a Internet Cult as something distinct and different from just motivated activists??? It can’t just be contrarianism. For example, anti-Global Warming adherents are not a cult. They just don’t believe the case for global warning and concentrate on science and research. On the other hand, Moon Landing Deniers probably skate pretty close to, or over, the edge of being a cult. But what is the difference??? By the Internet’s very anonymous and impersonal nature you lose a lot of the signs and indicators listed in the above Internet Article. I believe the key is to concentrate on three factors:
1. The Information Control aspects inherent the subject belief system;
2. The degree of irrationality and refusal to face facts in the subject belief system;
3. The degree of conspiracy necessary for the subject belief to be to true.
The above website discusses Mind Control:
Those who control the information control the person. In a mind control cult any information from outside the cult is considered evil, especially if it is opposing the cult. Members are told not to read it or believe it. Only information supplied by the cult is true. One cult labels any information against it as “persecution” or “spiritual pornography”, another cult calls it “apostate literature” and will expel you from the group if you are caught with it. Cults train their members to instantly destroy any critical information given to them, and to not even entertain the thought that the information could be true.
Common sense tells us that a person who does not consider all information may make an unbalanced decision. Filtering the information available or trying to discredit it not on the basis of how true it is, but rather on the basis of how it supports the party line, is a common control method used throughout history.
Now, I can tell you from debating Vattle Birthers, they score very high in this first factor. Anybody who disagrees with them is automatically a Obot, even me, who was a dedicated Common Sense Suspicious Birther. According to them, they alone possess the knowledge of the meaning of the term natural born citizen, in spite of the fact that the courts have defined it differently.
Several Vattle Birthers took their case to a Indiana Court, saying that it took two citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. They lost. The Indiana court people said:
Based upon the language of Article II, Section 1, Clause 4 and the guidance provided by Wong Kim Ark, [A U.S. Supreme Court Case!!!] we conclude that persons born within the borders of the United States are “natural born Citizens” for Article II, Section 1 purposes, regardless of the citizenship of their parents. Just as a person “born within the British dominions [was] a natural-born British subject” at the time of the framing of the U.S. Constitution, so too were those “born in the allegiance of the United States  natural-born citizens.
Now, you would expect a Vattle Birther to disagree with this, but the ones I was debating just called the Indiana Court people, “Hillbilly Hoosiers” and disregarded it. Plus the U.S. Supreme Court case it was quoting!!! Here is the whole Indiana thingy in case you want to read it for yourself, which is NOT what a cult member would ever want you to do!!!
Moving on, the Vattle Birthers also score very high in the second factor, the degree of irrationality and refusal to face facts in the subject belief system. For example, the Vattle Birthers will tell you that the case of Minor versus Happersatt, another U.S. Supreme Court case about women’s right to vote, is their most important case of all and proves that it takes two citizen parents to be a natural born citizen. In fact, the Minor case does NOT discuss whether somebody born in America who has foreign born parents is a natural born citizen or not. Oh how, you might ask, do we know this??? Because the Minor case says so!!! Here:
The Constitution does not, in words, say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common-law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives, or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners. Some authorities go further and include as citizens children born within the jurisdiction without reference to the citizenship of their parents. As to this class there have been doubts, but never as to the first. For the purposes of this case it is not necessary to solve these doubts.
Sometimes, what the Vattle Birthers do is just ignore the part that I have bolded and italicized and try to sneak it past people. But somebody always catches them and then they start lying and misreading stuff all over the place to try to say it doesn’t say that at all. Well, this is just obviously IRRATIONAL and a REFUSAL TO FACE FACTS. But this is not the only place the Vattle Birthers do this. No, in fact they are sooo trying to avoid American law, that they dig up a dead Swiss guy named Emerich Vattel, to try to make him say it takes two citizen parents when he wasn’t even talking about America and what he said didn’t even apply to old English cases. This kind of stuff just goes on day and night with the Vattle Birthers!!!
Finally, on the third factor, the degree of conspiracy necessary for the subject belief to be to true, the Vattle Birthers are just OFF THE CHART!!! Way before the election, everybody knew that Obama’s father was some guy from Kenya who was here as a student and was not a U. S. citizen. But nobody important objected to Obama running for office, because the law says that if you are born in America, and are not a diplomat’s kid, or a invading soldier, then you are a natural born citizen. You don’t have to get naturalized or anything. Sooo, if Obama was ineligible, then every Republican or conservative lawyer, every Republican or conservative judge, and Hillary Clinton’s lawyers and judges would have had to ignore what the Vattle Birthers say is the law. And must continue to ignore it. This is just total BS!!! It didn’t happen that way, and the Vattle Birthers are just plain wrong.
Sooo, under this new type of cult, The Internet Cult, I think I have proven that the Vattle Birthers are cultists. There is probably a lot more academic work that has to be done on this topic I have invented, but this kind of stuff is what you are supposed to do when you have a Think Tank- – – – THINK!!!