Diana West: Lapping Up The Cold Case Posse Kool-Aid!!!

The Lapdogs Realized Early On That The Cold Case Posse Just Don't Hunt

Well, the World Net Daily (WND) – Cold Case Posse (CCP) moron-making machine has done claimed another victim. This time a writer named Diana West. She seems like an intelligent person, and has even written a book. But she must have gotten into a pitcher-full of the WND – CCP Kool Aid. Here are a few excerpts from what she wrote, with a link to her blog, which I stumbled across on World Net Daily:

Silence of The Lapdogs

I ask you: Have you read in your local paper about the technical evidence that led the posse’s three retired criminal investigators and two attorneys to conclude that the birth certificate image White House officials uploaded at the White House website on April 27, 2011, did not originate in a paper format, but rather was created (forged) as an electronic file on a computer?

Have you seen on network or cable news the video clip (one of six posse videos at YouTube) re-creating exactly how an additional fraud might have been committed to forge the president’s Selective Service registration card? Heard even conservative talk radio discussing the posse’s discovery that immigration files in the National Archives recording overseas arrivals into Hawaii are missing from the week of Obama’s 1961 birthday? Or about the retired mailman’s affidavit attesting that the mother of ex-Weather Underground terrorist Bill Ayers enthusiastically told him that she helped with “foreign student” Barack Obama’s education?

I know my ears pricked up when, watching the posse’s press conference online, I heard lead investigator Michael Zullo explain that the 1961 Hawaiian newspaper listings of Barack Obama’s birth confirm nothing because the posse “can prove beyond a doubt” that these newspapers announced arrivals of foreign babies as well as native-born. Zullo also announced the posse had “documented evidence of two adopted individuals who were breathing three years prior” and were similarly listed as newborn infants. Heard anything about that?

“1984″-style, we mustn’t question. We mustn’t look. We certainly mustn’t look at questions that cross the narrative of authority. What are we, free people?

Here is the link:

http://www.dianawest.net/Home/tabid/36/EntryId/2073/Silence-of-the-Lapdogs.aspx

Her blog is well-written, and she even has a cute picture of the Marx Brothers which is supposed to represent all us lapdogs. But the problem is, she has it all backwards. It is actually she and the Birthers who are laying there supinely on the settee and chewing on Milk Bones.  It is the Anti-Birthers and Obots who are doing all the real questioning. For example:

What crime is the CCP investigating? Taking Pixels across state lines for immoral purposes???

Why didn’t the CCP just contact Hawaii if they are unsure where Obama was born???

Why did the CCP involve WND and Jerry Corsi in their investigation???

Why did the CCP and Corsi have a pre-existing book deal???

What effect did the book deal have on the findings of the CCP???

What makes the Postman’s testimony the least bit credible when he can’t remember when, or names, and most of what he says is hearsay from a long-dead source???

This list could go on and on, and perhaps if Diana West had any real curiosity, she would be asking some of these questions rather than just repeating the WND line that this is an earth-shattering event which  the MSM is ignoring. And, as I pointed out to Jeffrey T. Kuhner of The Washington Examiner, the underlying premise that this story is being ignored is false. See here, for a link to the Obama Conspiracy Theories article:

http://www.obamaconspiracy.org/2012/03/media-blackout-on-arizona-cold-case-posse/

I hope that Diana West is merely new to all this Birther stuff, and momentarily overcome by all the new information. Those of us who have been covering it for a while are a lot more cynical when the Birthers start howling that they have found something new. We have been there – done that way too many times with them.

West appears to have some writing ability, and her book, The Death Of The Grown-Up, sounds very good. It echoes a theme I have often heard from my father.  I may even check it out myself. I hope she gets off this idiotic Birther foolishness before she shoots her credibility in both feet.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. That Dog (or Cold Case Posse) Don’t Hunt.  The Urban dictionary says about the idiom:

1. That dog don’t hunt

An obviously faulty endeavor; also as ~ /won’t hunt/, predictive of failure.

No go, non-starter

As he faced the blank stares of the members following his proposal, someone whispered off camera, “Well. That dog don’t hunt.”

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49 responses to “Diana West: Lapping Up The Cold Case Posse Kool-Aid!!!

  • David Farrar

    I think what Sheriff Arpaio is referring to is the lack of media attention to the “facts” his Cold Case Posse has uncovered rather simply using peripheral issues to attract the attention of the reader away from these new-found facts

    It’s not an accident that your Obama Conspiracy Theories site didn’t hyper link his list. It would have shown this massive effort to get the story out by the MSM consisted of repeating the same template of ignoring the facts and concentrating on diversionary issues.

    Because his long list isn’t hyper-linked, I haven’t been able to go through the list to find out if any one of them actually tells us why Obama’s Selective Service stamp was not constructed in the normal fashion. Perhaps you can go through the list and find one that addresses this issue?

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • Andy

      I thought “facts” could only be established by someone competent. Since the CCP hasn’t released it’s list of members, there is no way to establish competency, thus we attack the actual results.

      Since the results don’t give us anything new, there is no reason to report on it.

      Isn’t it weird that they won’t release their “experts?” I wonder if there were any?

    • RoadScholar

      No “facts.” Just “truthiness.”

      It’s all garbage, David. Grow up.

    • Monkey Boy

      I think what Sheriff Arpaio is referring to is the lack of media attention to the “facts” his Cold Case Posse has uncovered rather simply using peripheral issues to attract the attention of the reader away from these new-found facts

      It good that you put “facts” in quotes for these self-styled “facts” bear little resemblance to actual facts. And, too, it would have helped to establish credibility if the “facts” hadn’t been asserted by grifters and propagated by serial liars.

      Every birther is a liar and/or scoundrel–without exception. Mr. Farrar, as a liar, has been exposed more than Brittany Spear’s Pudenda.

    • Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

      David:

      What “facts” has the CCP actually come up with??? One, that the postal date stamp should have had 4 digits instead of two. Two, that some postman in Chicago met a young black man in Chicago, somewhere back in the late 1980’s or early 1990’s, who he thinks was Obama, and the guy said he was going to be President one day.

      So far, those are the “facts.” There is nothing there that excites me. Particularly when there was no contact with Hawaii which is kind of the first thing you think a legitimate law enforcement investigation would do.

      The analysis of the online image is nothing but a wild goose chase, and for all the “experts” who say it was not made from a paper copy, there are “experts” who say it was. But even the CCP can find no incongruous information in it. Personally, I think Obama put a screwy image online to screw with the Birthers, and you guys are falling for it. And if he didn’t, and it was screwy on accident, then he is thanking his lucky stars for the screw up.

      At any rate, after all this time, there is just nothing which indicates that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii.

      Squeeky Fromm
      Girl Reporter

      • David Farrar

        Interesting, Squeeky,

        You don’t see Obama’s draft notice being proven to be a fake culpable?

        Remember now, foreigners don’t have to fill out Selective Service cards for the US draft, so Obama didn’t have a draft card. One had to be created and placed in the record for him after the fact. I consider this fact alone enough to call for a special prosecutor. If proven to be accurate, all of Obama’s claims must then be investigated and proven one way or the other, including his Hawaiian birth documents.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Monkey Boy

          You don’t see Obama’s draft notice[sic] being proven to be a fake culpable?

          It absolutely amazing me how some people can lie without shame and DON’T CARE ABOUT BEING CAUGHT at it.

          The draft card image was released during Bush’s Presidency. Explain how a freshman Senator would have enough power to have SS employees to risk their livelihoods by faking a registration.

          You lie.

        • Monkey Boy

          From SS website FAQ:

          Q: I tried to register but a message told me there was a problem with my Social Security Number. It said that I may have mis-keyed it and to try again. It also said that my number may not be in the data base. I keyed it again but the same message appeared. What should I do?

          This establishes as a lie that the President could register with a bogus Social Security number.

        • Andy

          And how was it proven fake? You forget, good sir, that being able to produce a forged document doesn’t make others of the same class a forgery.

          Yes, they could reproduce the stamp, but that doesn’t actually make the stamp a forgery. If that were the case, all the driver’s licenses in pretty much every state would be fakes, considering the high rate of fake id’s by students.

          Their argument is a logical fallacy.

    • whatever4

      David Farrar said: Because his long list isn’t hyper-linked, I haven’t been able to go through the list to find out if any one of them actually tells us why Obama’s Selective Service stamp was not constructed in the normal fashion. Perhaps you can go through the list and find one that addresses this issue?

      Or you could do what Doc did. He just searched Google News for “Cold Case Posse” over the past month.

    • jtmunkus

      Yes. “Facts.”

      Ex(treme) Animo(sity)
      jtmunkus

  • Reality Check

    Is that John Sampson on the left in the photo?

  • Reality Check

    Look at the links on Diana West’s blog. I has about every right wing blog listed.

  • Reality Check

    I invited Ms West to come on Reality Check Radio. Will she do it or will she turn out to just be a quivering bowl of Zullo?

  • David Farrar

    Monkey Boy

    March 23rd, 2012 at 12:49 pm

    “It absolutely amazing me how some people can lie without shame and DON’T CARE ABOUT BEING CAUGHT at it.

    You are right; I don’t mind telling you what I honestly believe, even if you see it as a lie. For me, it represents an opportunity to learn the truth if I am wrong, which is the goal of us all; I am sure.

    Let’s take the issue of the draft card. You raise an interesting question. My answer is: I have no idea when it first surfaced, but wasn’t there a murder involved in this case, and a private security company?

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • Monkey Boy

      You are right; I don’t mind telling you what I honestly believe, …

      It not what you “honestly believe” that labels you a liar, but telling everyone something you fabricated or telling something that no sentient person believes.

      Fabrication: “Kapiolani stated that it has records from fifty years ago.”

      Fabrication: “Chester Arthur lied about his father’s nationality.”

      • David Farrar

        As I have said; you are welcome to see it your own way. But the record reflects Kapiolani says it has all of its records, including for the year 1961.

        And Chester Arthur twice misspoke about the time his father was became a US citizen.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Monkey Boy

          As I have said; you are welcome to see it your own way. But the record reflects Kapiolani says it has all of its records, including for the year 1961.

          Where? It should be easy to prove.

          And Chester Arthur twice misspoke about the time his father was became a US citizen.

          Pointing us all to the exact statement would do much to establish your credibility. But, you don’t really care, since your only purpose, it seems, is to smear.

    • whatever4

      David Farrar said: Let’s take the issue of the draft card. You raise an interesting question. My answer is: I have no idea when it first surfaced, but wasn’t there a murder involved in this case, and a private security company?

      The murder wasn’t related to draft registration, Obama’s records, or a private security company. It was related to passport records and an identity theft ring. The murder victim was Leiutenant Quarles Harris Jr. (He wasn’t a Lt. in the services, that was his actual name.)

      A second unrelated case involved contract workers from a private security company who improperly looked up the passport files of Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Barack Obama.

      The two cases happened at around the same date, and became conflated in birther lore. Here’s a detailed discussion with links:
      http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2010/09/birther-mythbusting-leiutenant-quarles.html

      The draft registration issue first came up in a September 2008 interview with George Stephanopoulos where Obama said he had registered for the draft after high school. There was no draft in 1979 (his graduation year), so people started investigating. The document used by the CCP came from a FOIA request in October, with the document released in November 2008. http://wiki.birtherdebunkers.net/index.php?title=President_Obama's_Selective_Service_Registration#Rumor_One:_.22Obama_did_not_register_for_the_draft..22

      Col. Greg Hollister got involved sometime in 2010 when he illegally changed Obama’s address in the Selective Service online system and received a duplicate registration acknowledgement for Obama’s record.

      — Whatever4, Researcher, Rumor Debunking Unit,

  • Monkey Boy

    Proven serial liar D. Farrar roundly asserts that the President’s draft registration is “proven to be a fake” by a cabal of phonies, liars and grifters.

    From my readings there is strong suggestion that draft registrations in the national database of registrants are sequentially assigned a registration number. If so, it would be a difficult task indeed to insert a post facto registration into that database without an out-of-sequence number.

    Did the cold case pussies compare any earlier and later registrations to test if the registration number is logical? I thought not.

    • Monkey Boy

      The national database of registration numbers would be a densely populated one: i.e, there would be no unused numbers from the first-last entry. If the President (by some miracle unbeknownst to us) managed to find a bunch of idiots to risk there cushy retirement pensions to generate a fake registration nearly thirty years later, the registration number would be way out of line.

      • David Farrar

        Great question:

        Let’s see if there is an answer. You know, sometimes it takes time to allow the truth to come out.

        Let’s see if there is a way to do just as you suggest.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

  • Monkey Boy

    Let’s see if there is a way to do just as you suggest

    There is a dead-bang simple way to do just that–expecially for a “law enforcement investigatory body.” Just compare registration numbers of people who registered in that approximate time period. Surely, there would be willing subjects among the birthers/grifters who would agree to provide data in order to “expose the Usurper.”

  • Monkey Boy

    But, of course, a genuine investigation would have done that already, if it had concerns, and its purpose was to divine the truth. However, if the only purpose was to toss fecal matter, it would studiously avoid that.

  • David Farrar

    Monkey Boy

    March 23rd, 2012 at 1:03 pm
    From SS website FAQ:
    Q: I tried to register but a message told me there was a problem with my Social Security Number. It said that I may have mis-keyed it and to try again. It also said that my number may not be in the data base. I keyed it again but the same message appeared. What should I do?

    I believe these problems are associated with “online” applications. In 1980, Obama would have had to go to a local Hawaiian office.

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • jtmunkus

      An Eximo:

      IT’S COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT with regard to the president’s eligibility, if the Selective Service “forged” “papers” for the president when he was still a senator.

      Ex(treme) Animo(sity)
      jtmunkus

      • David Farrar

        If Obama is implicated, you would be right, his eligibility would no longer matter and neither would his presidency.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • jtmunkus

          “If Obama is implicated, you would be right, his eligibility would no longer matter and neither would his presidency.”

          You and your girlfriend Sheriff Joe have done a good job of implicating him.

          Yet Obama remains president.

          Another Farrar lie.

          Ex(treme) Animo(sity)
          jtmunkus

    • Monkey Boy

      I believe these problems are associated with “online” applications. In 1980, Obama would have had to go to a local Hawaiian office.

      It matters not. The point is that if the Selective Service detects that the proferred SS# doesn’t align with the name/birthdate data from the SSA, it won’t do the registration.

      • David Farrar

        I am sure your point can be taken up by a special prosecutor, should Congress appoint one to look into Sheriff Arpaio’s claims.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Monkey Boy

          I am sure your point can be taken up by a special prosecutor, should Congress appoint one to look into Sheriff Arpaio’s claims.

          Are you really that thick? Again, you are playing The Good Soldier Schweik role.

          Through possibly-feigned idiocy or incompetence he repeatedly manages to frustrate military authority and expose its stupidity in a form of passive resistance: the reader is left unclear, however, as to whether Švejk is genuinely incompetent, or acting quite deliberately with dumb insolence.

          There is no chance of anyone in Congress investigating such a bogus claim; not even Louis Gohmert or Virginia Foxx.

  • David Farrar

    And, of course, the Arpaio team doesn’t have access to this SS data. But I think they have asked the SS to investigate this forged “stamp” that just happens to appear on Barack Obama’s card.

    I think they gave them 30 days. As to what happens after 30 days and there is no reply; I cannot tell you.

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • whatever4

      One would think a legitimate investigation would have contacted the Selective Service Administration 4 months ago, rather than releasing a letter to the press. From a chain of evidence standpoint, at the very least. Where did the CCP get the SSS document in the first place? Was it from the SSS? Did they interview anyone from that agency? Or did they go straight to a demand letter?

  • jtmunkus

    After 30 days, Joe Arpaio will round up his posse, they will mount their trusty steeds and ride east to the nation’s capital, where they can lasso and hogtie Secretary Romo & Eric Holder & President Obama & whoever else gits in their way. Bring ’em back to Arizona Territory for a proper hangin’.

    That’s what you want, right?

    Ex(treme) Animo(sity)
    jtmunkus

  • kevinkesseler

    David,

    reductio ad absurdum“, literally “reduction to absurdity”, is a technique for proving logical assertions (often known as “proof by contradiction”) where one makes an assumption and shows that it leads to a logical contradiction.

    To wit:

    1. There exists a largest integer n (assumption)

    2. If n is an integer, then n+1 is an integer as well

    3. n+1 > n

    4. Therefore n+1 is larger than the largest integer (contradiction)

    5 There is no largest integer (conclusion = negation of assumption)

    This little example proved that there is no largest integer–you can believe differently as much as you want, but it is beyond dispute to anyone who understands logic and to delude yourself otherwise is foolish in the extreme.

    Getting back to your comment, you have described the responses to your comments as “reductio ad absurdum“–in other words, you said that your opponents were showing that your statements lead to logical contradictions (which they do–a refreshing bit of honesty on your part, if unwitting…). Now I’m not sure how to describe someone that unknowingly implies that his opponents have proven him wrong by accidentally telling the truth for the first time, but I suspect it is the same sort of person who, when offered a forfeit, demands instead that the game be played and doesn’t just score an own goal, but in fact manages to lose to an empty chair in a blowout.

    Now, I’m aware that you don’t understand what I’m talking about, so I’ll explain how the technique of reductio ad absurdum can be applied to show that you don’t have a clue: If we assume that all of the statements you’ve made about what is required for President Obama to prove his citizenship to your satisfaction are actually the applicable legal standard, we can easily show that most, if not all, Americans (including yourself) could not possibly meet such a standard. Thus demonstrating that only a very, very few people are eligible to be President–obviously not what the founders intended (i.e. contradicting the Constitution*). This is far from the only way this technique could be used to show that your arguments are worthless (and there are many other techniques which can and have been used to prove you wrong), so what makes you willing to endlessly repeat what has been clearly shown to be lies? All in an attempt to bear false witness against a fellow American–how Christian of you…

    * For people who like to style themselves Constitutionalists, you birthers sure do like to contradict it a lot…

    Out of curiosity, if you understood the meaning of Latin phrases (instead of just typing them into an internet translation program and pretending you know what they mean) how do you think you would react to someone who displays his ignorance and foolishness as if it were wisdom?

    I’m sorry to have had to use logic on you, but until you understand how foolish you look and how shameful your behavior is, you will continue to be incapable of learning anything.

    • Northland10

      Nicely done (and, OT, sorry about MSU).

      • Slartibartfast

        Thanks. I thought David should know how foolish he was making himself look to people who understood the terms he was using. Then if he continues to do so he shows himself to be willfully ignorant.

        One of the downsides of rooting for consistently good teams like State (and Duke) is that getting into the sweet 16 isn’t a major achievement, it’s just an expected milestone. It could have been worse, they could have lost to Lehigh in the first round… oh wait… *sigh* (I’m too distraught to even mention losing a star freshman point guard to the NBA for the second straight year). Hopefully Kansas will keep UNC out of the final four and salvage something from this tournament…

        Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk, KU!
        Rock, Chalk, Jayhawk, KU!
        ROCK CHALK JAYHAWK KU!

  • kevinkesseler

    David,

    reductio ad absurdum“, literally “reduction to absurdity”, is a technique for proving logical assertions (often known as “proof by contradiction”) where one makes an assumption and shows that it leads to a logical contradiction.

    To wit:

    1. There exists a largest integer n (assumption)

    2. If n is an integer, then n+1 is an integer as well

    3. n+1 > n

    4. Therefore n+1 is larger than the largest integer (contradiction)

    5 There is no largest integer (conclusion = negation of assumption)

    This little example proved that there is no largest integer–you can believe differently as much as you want, but it is beyond dispute to anyone who understands logic and to delude yourself otherwise is foolish in the extreme.

    Getting back to your comment, you have described the responses to your comments as “reductio ad absurdum“–in other words, you said that your opponents were showing that your statements lead to logical contradictions (which they do–a refreshing bit of honesty on your part, if unwitting…). Now I’m not sure how to describe someone that unknowingly implies that his opponents have proven him wrong by accidentally telling the truth for the first time, but I suspect it is the same sort of person who, when offered a forfeit, demands instead that the game be played and doesn’t just score an own goal, but in fact manages to lose to an empty chair in a blowout.

    Now, I’m aware that you don’t understand what I’m talking about, so I’ll explain how the technique of reductio ad absurdum can be applied to show that you don’t have a clue: If we assume that all of the statements you’ve made about what is required for President Obama to prove his citizenship to your satisfaction are actually the applicable legal standard, we can easily show that most, if not all, Americans (including yourself) could not possibly meet such a standard. Thus demonstrating that only a very, very few people are eligible to be President–obviously not what the founders intended (i.e. contradicting the Constitution*). This is far from the only way this technique could be used to show that your arguments are worthless (and there are many other techniques which can and have been used to prove you wrong), so what makes you willing to endlessly repeat what has been clearly shown to be lies? All in an attempt to bear false witness against a fellow American–how Christian of you…

    * For people who like to style themselves Constitutionalists, you birthers sure do like to contradict it a lot…

    Out of curiosity, if you understood the meaning of Latin phrases (instead of just typing them into an internet translation program and pretending you know what they mean) how do you think you would react to someone who displays his ignorance and foolishness as if it were wisdom?

    I’m sorry to have had to use logic on you, but until you understand how foolish you look and how shameful your

  • kevinkesseler

    cont…

    behavior is you’ll never learn anything.

  • Slartibartfast

    Sorry about the duplicate and fragmented comment Squeeky… My bad.

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