“The Dianna” Is Back In The SSR!!! (Or, Shpekin of The Postman)

"The Dianna" Teaches The Russians The "Puppet Postman Polka"

Well, Dianna Cotter aka The Dianna aka Freeper Danae, is back in the SSR. In two ways, First, she returns to Pravda chief paper of Russia (an SSR), and second, she is promoting the whole  Obama fake Selective Service Registration (another SSR) story from Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse.

Trying to give Pravda it’s ruple’s worth, she throws in the alleged American media blackout story, the Allen Hulton Postman story, the Obama was adopted in Indonesia story, the Obama Administration is threatening everybody with FTC prosecution story, the Obama was a foreign student story, and some assorted smears about Obama associating with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright.

There’s so many made-up stories, the piece should have been called Cotter’s Collected Short Stories. Here is a link to her fictional presentation:

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/29-03-2012/120917-barack_obama_foreign_student-0/

Here are a few of her assorted tales:

[The Postman’s Tale] Retired United States Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interview on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hulton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.

[The Indonesian’s Tale] The child Barack Obama became an Indonesian Citizen when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and the family’s subsequent relocation to Indonesia. Young Barack by law needed Indonesian Citizenship in order to attend school, and his adoption provided this. Indeed, in young Barack’s situation adoption was necessary to gain it.

[The Godfather’s Tale]During our investigation, we actually were told [that media] had been threatened with FTC investigations. Commentators [had been] threatened with their jobs.” Lead Investigator Zullo told Bob Unruh of Word Net Daily on March 7th. These are the auspices of the federal government with the resources of a powerful nation backing them. The justifications for using such power are almost unlimited as Red State pointed out in August of 2011.

We also get another dose of phony British citizenship law, and at the end, we get this little teaser:

[The Godfather 2 Tale] Part two of this column will report on 9 State Attorneys General who have taken the unprecedented step of listing the continuing crimes of the Obama Administration with the clear intent to prosecute, which has also received little media attention.

I will spend some time re-debunking this crap over the next few weeks. Because most of it has already been debunked by myself and others before. But it is new to the Ruskies. There is one little item that needs immediate attention, though. She mentions RedState, and links to an FTC article there.  RedState is a Tea Party website run by Erick Erickson. To be honest, she should have linked to this one instead:

[T]he moment a birfer opens his mouth and spouts his stupidity from the stage of a tea party rally it becomes headline news on every news network. Complain all you like that that’s not fair, but it’s the world we live in.

We must be vigilant. We must be willing to draw a line in the sand and stand against fatuous nonsense that opens up the right to attacks by a left-leaning media intent on embarrassing the good people who have developed through the tea party movement a renewed sense of civic involvement.

Birfers and Truthers have no place among us. And they are most decidedly not welcome at RedState.

Now, if we can get the formerly RedCountry to do the same. . .

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is from The Government Inspector, a play which has identity issues at its core. Wiki says:

The Government Inspector, also known as The Inspector General (Russian: Ревизор or Revizor, Der Revisor in German, or Rewizor in Polish), is a satirical play by the Ukrainian-born Russian dramatist and novelist Nikolai Gogol. Based upon an anecdote allegedly recounted to Gogol by Pushkin,the play is a comedy of errors, satirizing human greed, stupidity, and the extensive political corruption of Imperial Russia.

The corrupt officials of a small Russian town, headed by the Mayor, react with terror to the news that an incognito inspector (the revizor) will soon be arriving in their town to investigate them. The flurry of activity to cover up their considerable misdeeds is interrupted by the report that a suspicious person has arrived two weeks previously from Saint Petersburg and is staying at the inn. That person, however, is not an inspector; it is Khlestakov, a foppish civil servant with a wild imagination.

In 1926, the expressionistic production of the comedy by Vsevolod Meyerhold “returned to this play its true surrealistic, dreamlike essence after a century of simplistically reducing it to mere photographic realism”. Erast Garin interpreted Khlestakov as “an infernal, mysterious personage capable of constantly changing his appearance”. Leonid Grossman recalls that Garin’s Khlestakov was “a character from Hoffmann’s tale, slender, clad in black with a stiff mannered gait, strange spectacles, a sinister old-fashioned tall hat, a rug and a cane, apparently tormented by some private vision”.

Meyerhold wrote about the play: “What is most amazing about The Government Inspector is that although it contains all the elements of… plays written before it, although it was constructed according to various established dramatic premises, there can be no doubt — at least for me — that far from being the culmination of a tradition, it is the start of a new one. Although Gogol employs a number of familiar devices in the play, we suddenly realize that his treatment of them is new… The question arises of the nature of Gogol’s comedy, which I would venture to describe as not so much ‘comedy of the absurd’ but rather as ‘comedy of the absurd situation.'”

In the finale of Meyerhold’s production, the actors were replaced with dolls, a device that Andrei Bely compared to the stroke “of the double Cretan ax that chops off heads,” but a stroke entirely justified in this case since “the archaic, coarse grotesque is more subtle than subtle.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Government_Inspector

One of the characters in the play is Postmaster Shpekin, which explains the word-play on “Speakin’ of the Postman.”

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46 responses to ““The Dianna” Is Back In The SSR!!! (Or, Shpekin of The Postman)

  • David Farrar

    So now other nations are beginning to have doubts about the authority of Barack Obama’s presidency. How long can you believers hold out?

    Here we have a guy whose authority is now being questioned on the international stage, something that is going to jeopardize America’s security, and all it would take to clear this up is a few independent corroborative pieces of evidence produced and entered into the record in a court of competition jurisdiction…and yet you people, including Judge Malihi, apparently, don’t see the need.

    Remarkable!

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • Northland10

      So you take the opinion of Russia over that of the conservative Red State? That you think the only places that support your quest are foreign should tell you something.

      As for stating that all you need is credible evidence entered, you may be right. Now all you need is credible evidence.

    • bob

      Pravda is anti-American propaganda.

      Why do you hate America?

  • Fred Muggs

    Hi Squeeky.! Just checking in. The articles of late have been wonderful. I give them five bananas! Did that GIllar feller take the bets or did he run like a plucked chicken?

  • Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

    Hi Fred!!!

    Happy to see you and glad you are enjoying the Internet Articles.

    Gillar has not been back for a few days. I kind of miss him, because it is very interesting when both sides can talk back and forth without having to worry somebody will get them banned.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

  • Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

    Yes, but WHO is questioning him??? It’s the AMERICAN Birthers who are going over there and doing it. And what just irritates me is that idiots like The Dianna are lying lie cheap rugs about what American law is to unsuspecting foreigners.

    Think how easy it would be for somebody from Russia to lie to us about Russian law and we wouldn’t have a clue.

    Squeeky Fromm
    Girl Reporter

    • David Farrar

      I haven’t looked recently at the percentage of the electorate who can’t say for sure whether Obama has met his required qualifications are not, but I am sure it’s over 25% of the electorate.

      I am sure our enemies are looking at these same figures. I am also sure they, too, like so many here, are wondering why Obama hasn’t moved quickly to address this issue if he is legitimate. The longer he waits to produce hard, solid, independent, corroborative evidence to back up his birth certificate, it will be America’s foreign that will suffer.

      ex animo
      davidfarrar

      • Squeeky Fromm, Girl Reporter

        David:

        Out of that 25+%, how many would believe anything Obama says, or even anything they see??? In my OPINION, most of the Birthers who were capable of changing their minds, did so when he released the long form image, and Hawaii confirmed it on their state web pages.

        There are some who would still change their minds if the microfiche came out, but I don’t think most would. Look at how hard it is to get Birthers to get off the Minor v. Happersett stuff, and that is right there in plain English, “not necessary to solve these doubts.”

        If Obama allowed access to his Hawaiian records, WND would find somebody who found some anomaly with them and it would just be here we go again with, “the microfiche is a fake”

        That is my opinion.

        Squeeky Fromm
        Girl Reporter.

        • David Farrar

          Let’s put this in perspective. It is Obama who holds the key to establishing his credentials. And, yes; in most situations, as the record indicates, establishing overwhelming provenance that you have met your Constitutional qualifications, should take nothing more than a simple statement, the rest being filling ion by countless eye witnesses, and other anecdotal evidence. It took Donald Trump all of two weeks to establish his provenance in the face of a screaming press.

          Given Obama’s family and Hawaii’s long history of liberal birth registration statutes over the years, it is a fair question to ask if their records are accurate and can they prove it in a court of law?

          ex animo
          davidfarrar

        • whatever4

          And how did Donald Trump “establish his provenance”? He issued a scan of his birth certificate as issued by the City of New York. How is that different from what Obama did?

          I don’t believe anyone has ever produced evidence of “Hawaii’s long history of liberal birth registration statutes over the years.” Other than Sun Yat-sen more than 100 years ago, who obtained by fraud a birth certificate at the age of 38 in a manner never available to infants, has there ever been any real evidence to back that claim up? On the other hand, there IS evidence that other states have had similar birth registration statutes. Such laws enabled Ronald Reagan and Dwight Eisenhower to obtain birth certificates years after their births. (Neither were obtained from Hawaii.)

          Given that Obama’s grandparents and mother lived in Hawaii, had moved there only recently, were working at fairly low paying jobs or attending school, what reason do you have to believe the records are wrong?

  • David Farrar

    If our enemies think us weak and undivided, they just might miscalculate and try and exploit such a division.

    Many would think if Obama can put this matter to rest simply by allowing access to his Hawaiian natal records; he should do so. If not for himself, for the good of the nation.

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • Monkey Boy

      If our enemies think us weak and undivided, they just might miscalculate and try and exploit such a division.

      So, I wonder why some seek create a false impression with foreigners that we are divided by deliberately lying, talking of military coups, and seditiously conspiring with outsiders to bring down a legitimately elected Government.

      Could it be that they are just traitorous, un-American pond scum?

      • David Farrar

        Do you really think that is what 25% of the electorate is: a seditious conspiracy to bring down the first black president?

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Monkey Boy

          Everyone that cries for a military coup to overthrow a lawful government is a seditious, traitorous, un-American recycled dog biscuit. Whether the object is black or not.

        • RoadScholar

          All my friends with families in Europe, Russia, Ireland and Japan say their relatives think the 25% of Americans who doubt Obama’s legitimacy are just really, really stupid.

          THEY don’t believe he hasn’t done enough to authenticate himself; they blame the filthy rumor-mongers and self-serving demagogues who value partisan advantage over the welfare of their own country, and the gullible ignorant pinheads who believe their pack of lies.

          So, David, which category do you fall into? In either case, you are a detriment and an embarrassment to America.

          I hope you’re proud of yourself.

    • Northland10

      Do our enemies think we are weak? Why don’t you ask Bin Laden.

  • David Farrar

    whatever4

    March 30th, 2012 at 10:52 pm

    And how did Donald Trump “establish his provenance”? He issued a scan of his birth certificate as issued by the City of New York. How is that different from what Obama did?

    If you will remember, that’s not how it went down. Trump first came forward with his hospital birth certificate. And while the press ridiculed him, screaming something about his “official state” issued birth certificate…five days later, after paying his $40, he published his “official New York State Heath Department birth certificate.

    In fact, this is typically the case when courts need to establish the veracity of a state certified birth document.

    It was only then we learned Trump’s mother was English.

    Hawaiian Health Department statutes and operational procedures are well known at present. At the time of Obama’s birth, just a simple affidavit filled out by a loving grandmother who wanted nothing more for hie first grandson to be an American as much as a year after the birth would have been enough create the present record.

    I am of the opinion that Obama’s maternal grandmother worked in the Social Security Office of Hawaii sometime prior to Obama’s birth. But she also was an assistant bank manager at one time.

    There are errors in the record Obama has published to date. There are also errors in the record Hawaiian Health Department officials have “certified” to be correct.

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • Slartibartfast

      What you are saying, then, is that it took 5 days for Trump to do something that President Obama had done before the birthers even started asking for it. Furthermore, while all we know about Mr. Trump is that he posted an image on the internet, it is now clear that President Obama posted a document which the state of Hawai’i unequivocally considers an image of valid documentation of the president’s birth. All you want to do is to keep moving the goalposts to make the standard impossible to meet–which makes you dishonest–and when you add to that by holding Mr. Trump to a far lower standard than you apply to President Obama you show yourself to be a hypocrite as well. Not to mention your baseless accusations regarding the President’s grandmother… I am of them opinion that you are a truly despicable human being.

      • David Farrar

        What I am saying is, Donald Trump accomplished in two weeks what Obama has failed to do in almost four years — provide independent, corroborative evidence that would backup his “official” state certified birth documents.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

    • whatever4

      I beg to differ. Trump’s BC is NOT from NY State, it’s from the City of New York. It also wasn’t freshly produced by the city, it was from Trump’s files. http://www.newsmax.com/Headline/DonaldTrump-birthcertificate-newsmax-BarackObama/2011/03/29/id/391036 He then produced a short form issued in 1999. http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/DonaldTrump-BirthCertificate-newsmax/2011/03/29/id/391050 Newsmax published them scans of them. No new document was produced by any official body.

      Obama released his legal BC in 2008, (obtained in 2007), and allowed a fact-checking organization to photograph and handle the entire documen. Obama at least has the State of Hawaii separately saying that he was born in Hawaii. In 2011, when Obama finally asked Hawaii to approve a special request outside of their normal procedures, they did so — stressing that it wasn’t a normal procedure to issue certified LFBCs. It wasn’t hanging around in files for 50 years.

      I repeat — how is Trump’s BC’s provenance better than Obama’s?

      • David Farrar

        I stand corrected as to “New York City” being Trump’s Official state certifying agency.

        Nevertheless, producing both his hospital birth certification, as well as his “official” state certified birth documents within the time span of two weeks, is exactly what Barack Obama has steadfastly refused to do for the last four years.

        In fact, there is not one shred of evidence outside of Obama single source documentation that would independently establish where and when Barack Obama was born.

        As I pointed out, and as Trump acknowledged in the link you very kindly provided, the press was all over his documents. It took Donald Trump approximately two weeks to establish his birth certificate provenance, while we are still waiting for Obama to do the same.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Monkey Boy

          Nevertheless, producing both his hospital birth certification, as well as his “official” state certified birth documents within the time span of two weeks, is exactly what Barack Obama has steadfastly refused to do for the last four years

          Why on earth are you such a steadfast and persistent liar?

          The President has not only produced the standard birth certification document for any and all to journey to Chicago to examine, he has gone the extra step to acquire another non-standard certification that has additional information on it. What more, the State of Hawaii has vouched for it.

          You lie without shame.

          In fact, there is not one shred of evidence outside of Obama single source documentation that would independently establish where and when Barack Obama was born.

          The “single-source” is all that’s legally and constitutionally necessary to establish circumstances of birth. Here you lie by inference.

    • bob

      Hawaiian Health Department statutes and operational procedures are well known at present. At the time of Obama’s birth, just a simple affidavit filled out by a loving grandmother who wanted nothing more for hie first grandson to be an American as much as a year after the birth would have been enough create the present record.

      Why are you an anti-American liar?

      In what world do you think anyone, but anyone, certifies a birth when neither the parents or the baby are present?

    • whatever4

      Hawaiian Health Department statutes and operational procedures are well known at present. At the time of Obama’s birth, just a simple affidavit filled out by a loving grandmother who wanted nothing more for hie first grandson to be an American as much as a year after the birth would have been enough create the present record.

      Please provide proof of your allegation. Obama’s birth was registered 4 days after birth, and that was over a weekend. Birth registration by any non-hospital means would not be processed that fast. There is no conceivable way that a Department of Health would register an out-of-hospital birth without seeing that the baby actually existed. Here are the modern CA requirements for registering an out-of-hospital birth, even if attended by a physician. They require the mother to appear in person with pre-natal records and the baby. http://www.cdph.ca.gov/certlic/birthdeathmar/Documents/Out-of-Hospital%20Birth%20Package.pdf

      Such a birth would have been a very rare occurrence in Hawaii in 1961 — the Natal statistics report from 1961 shows only 14 non-hospital births in the city of Honolulu, and 100 non-hospital births in all of Hawaii. http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/vsus/vsus_1961_1.pdf

      I am of the opinion that Obama’s maternal grandmother worked in the Social Security Office of Hawaii sometime prior to Obama’s birth. But she also was an assistant bank manager at one time.

      Your opinion? Do you have any evidence at all?

      Madelyn Dunham was one of the first two female bank VPs in Hawaii and head of the Bank of Hawaii’s Escrow Department. She joined the bank in 1960, shortly after moving to Hawaii and retired in 1986. Stanley Ann graduated in 1960 from high school in Washington State. The timeline doesn’t leave much time to work in the Social Security office.
      http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2008/Mar/30/ln/hawaii803300356.html

      Internet rumors claim Dunham worked in the Probate Court and stole a SSN there for Obama. Perhaps that’s what you were thinking of? After 1986, she volunteered as a court observer, probate aide and arbitrator for the Juvenile Monetary Restitution Program in the Circuit Court. Obama’s SSN was issued in 1977, 9 years before Dunham volunteered in the court. http://www.cleveland.com/nation/index.ssf/2008/08/toot_obama_grandma_a_force_tha.html

      There are errors in the record Obama has published to date. There are also errors in the record Hawaiian Health Department officials have “certified” to be correct.

      Examples?

  • David Farrar

    Read Hawaiian birth registration statutes in affect at the time of Obama’s birth, neither the baby, mother or immediate family member, is required to fill out the birth registration application.

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • Monkey Boy

      Read Hawaiian birth registration statutes in affect at the time of Obama’s birth, neither the baby, mother or immediate family member, is required to fill out the birth registration application.

      Why should I bother? If the Registrar for Honolulu, in 1961, found that the evidence persuasive that the birth occurred there, and therefore registered a birth, it settles the matter legally.

      But, you can see by the special certification made available by the President, that he was born in Kapiolani Hospital on August 4, 1961 and that the birth was attested to by a physician. So, stop lying about a non-existent affadavit filled out by a grandmother, third cousin, or mailman. You just pull ridiculous stuff from your nether regions.

  • Reality Check

    @David

    Be honest with us. I bet back in 2009 your were saying “I would be satisfied if Obama would only show us his LFBC.” Fess up.

    • David Farrar

      Yes, of course. But he hasn’t. He has only shown us a fraudulent
      copy of a birth document that cannot be authenticated by a preponderance of evidence. In fact, his Hawaiian birth documents can’t be verified by even one piece of independent of evidence.

      Moreover, birth certificates should have been filled with independent, verifiable collaborative evidence that the birth occurred when and where the state birth document states; not Obama’s. Conveniently missing from any of Obama’s birth records is any culpable evidence at all as to the veracity of the information contained in Obama’s Hawaiian Health Department birth certificates, when just the opposite should be the case..

      For example, how do Hawaiian Health officials know Obama was born at the Kapiolani Hospital? Do they have records from the Kapiolani Hospital that would indicate Obama was born there? If so, publish them so our foreign enemies won’t get the wrong idea that he is not legitimate.

      ex animo
      davidfarrar

  • Reality Check

    This is what David said in 2009:

    … Hawaii issues two separate, and NOT interchangeable, documents that pertain to someone’s birth. One is a long form birth certificate, the other is the certificate of live birth. The only thing Obama’s campaign has provided for “proof” that he was born in Hawaii is the COLB, a document Obama, himself, has yet to even acknowledge as his own. His sister Maya Soetoro Ng also has a COLB issued in Hawaii and she was born overseas, has never claimed to be a citizen, much less “natural-born” as the constitution stipulates for someone to be eligible to take the oath of office of the presidency of the United States. There are many other documented cases of someone having an Hawaiian COLB, even though they were born in other countries (Sun Yat Sen, for example).

    http://www.thenextright.com/davidfarrar/did-you-know

    So there are many other documented cases of people born in other countries and getting birth certificates that say they were born in Hawaii? Care to name them?

    • Northland10

      Even more interesting may be a comment he left in the same post:

      “As far as I am concerned, if Barack Obama can prove he was born in Hawaii, via his (long-form) birth certificate, and that his mother was a U.S. citizen at that time of his birth. Bingo! he’s a “natural-born” citizen.”

      Fair enough?

      David may not understand the concept of moving the goalposts.

      • Reality Check

        I didn’t read the comments. 😆

        David, You do not have to answer my question that I asked above. We found the answer.

      • David Farrar

        Northland10

        March 31st, 2012 at 11:16 am

        My statement still stands. As I said above, a certified birth document should be filled with verifiable secondary evidence about a birth. A state birth certificate is only prima facie evidence — only the beginning evidence. These documents were never meant to stand alone as unquestionable proof the birth occurred when and where the record indicates.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Slartibartfast

          I should have guessed–you have no idea what prima facie means, do you?

        • Northland10

          To get over the hurdle of the birth certificate, the Birthers have to provide evidence that Obama was born somewhere else besides what is listed on the birth certificate (and it must be credible). Only then, may further investigation be necessary. Until then, too bad, so sad. That is the law David. Get over it.

          Slarti.. I suspect that David does not even care what prima facie means. Truth, facts and law are lost concepts on him.

  • Monkey Boy

    Farrar has been proven a liar so many times on so many different things that it is unproductive to try to embarrass him by pointing out his lies; he is shameless.

  • David Farrar

    Northland10

    March 31st, 2012 at 4:37 pm

    As I said, and hoped you would read it and realize your mistake…I did tell you what prima facie evidence is and what it takes to over come it…other prima facie evidence.

    ex animo
    davidfarrar

    • bob

      There is no competent admissible evidence that President Obama was born anywhere else but Hawaii.

      Your wild speculation about what might be possible is actually proof that you have no evidence.

      • David Farrar

        You are as welcome to your own delusions as I am to mine. But all I would have to prove is that there are errors in the state of Hawaii’s certified birth document. The error doesn’t even have to be related to birth place at all.

        After all, their certificate doesn’t say the information it contains is correct; only that it is an accurate copy of their records.

        ex animo
        davidfarrar

        • Monkey Boy

          You are as welcome to your own delusions as I am to mine. But all I would have to prove is that there are errors in the state of Hawaii’s certified birth document. The error doesn’t even have to be related to birth place at all.

          Another assertion that is both irrelevant, and incredibly stupid on its face. There are unquestionably inaccuracies in the data on your driver’s license, but do those that invalidate the document? Harmless inaccuracies such as a difference in weight, eye color, etc. don’t invalidate the driver’s license.

          A father’s birth year, or a mother’s address are not the critical data in a birth certification. They are merely ancillary to identifying the newborn. The critical data is date of birth, place of birth, signature of attestation, and name (for identification purposes). Just like the critical data on a driver’s license is name, date of birth and current address.

        • Monkey Boy

          Incidentally, various government agencies have asked me for my father’s name and mother’s name to identify myself. I have never been asked for either birthdate or birth year.

        • bob

          But all I would have to prove is that there are errors in the state of Hawaii’s certified birth document. The error doesn’t even have to be related to birth place at all.

          As you admit, this is your delusion; it has no basis in the law. Or reality.

        • Northland10

          But all I would have to prove is that there are errors in the state of Hawaii’s certified birth document.

          Errors are not substantial contradictory evidence. They do not contradict anything. They are just errors. The certificate exists to transmit facts of a vital event (in this case, a birth). You have to show the data regarding the event is incorrect.

          In other words, you have to show the date, place and manner are incorrect with substantial evidence. Until then, you will lose any court case.

          I should mention, it would be easier to succeed in an appeal if it were actually filed.

    • Northland10

      I rather doubt you will understand or care but, here goes David, from Law.com:

      Prima facie;Latin for “at first look,” or “on its face,” referring to a lawsuit or criminal prosecution in which the evidence before trial is sufficient to prove the case unless there is substantial contradictory evidence presented at trial.

      So where is the substantial contradictory evidence he was born anywhere but Hawaii on 4 August 1961 at at Kapi’olani Maternity & Gynecological Hospital? That is the bar and no less.

      • RoadScholar

        You’ll never get a real response. Farrar is so intent on betraying his country that no facts, logic, or appeals to decency will stop him.

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