Did The Whistleblower Give Orly Taitz The Slip???

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She Wanted To Believe So Badly,  That She Swallowed It Hook, Line, And Sinker

A little over two months ago,  on June 19, 2013, Orly Taitz went to a Tea Party rally in Washington D.C. where she met someone [allegedly named Laurie Hathaway]  who claimed to be an employee of HESC, a student loan servicing company.  She  told Taitz that she had copies of papers showing that Obama attended Columbia as a foreign student, from Indonesia. Then, the Whistleblower disappeared for a few days, and then reappeared, then went silent again.

The Birther Think Tank did 4 separate articles on the Whistleblower, which are linked in Note 2, below. The last one of those articles was on July 11, 2013. I never put much credence in the story, and have been keeping an eye on Taitz’s website to see if anything definite ever surfaced.  If I have successfully navigated her confusing website, where her every random thought seems to generate a post, there are five more articles on the Whistleblower, and one duplicative “press release” which I omitted.

To make it easier to read, I have liberally copied and pasted from her website, with the link back to her website. On August 10, she indicates that she managed to get back in touch with her contact, who was supposedly under FBI surveillance and harassment. This is evident from paragraphs 10, 11, and 12 of her affidavit to Darrell Issa, which I bolded, and from the title of the post which is underlined:

ONE – August 10, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 10, 2013 | 22 Comments

Press release
Law Offices of Orly Taitz

(Title) Evidence of terror and harassment of the HESC whistle blower Laurie Hathaway who provided Attorney Orly Taitz with evidence of Barack Obama, citizen of Indonesia,  in his capacity of a foreign student, receiving educational loan from the HESC. request for the US Congress to investigate fraud committed by Obama and investigate employees of the FBI, Department of Justice, other governmental employees and judges aiding and abetting Obama and harassing and terrorizing law abiding citizens and whistle blowers.

DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ
PRESIDENT
DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS FOUNDATION
29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100
RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA CA 92688

Darrell Issa
Chair of the House Oversight Committee
Re Harassment and intimidation of the whistle blowers by the FBI.
Request for help and assistance.

SWORN AFFIDAVIT OF ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ

1. My name is Orly Taitz. I am a licensed attorney and a licensed Doctor of Dental Surgery. As an attorney and an officer of the court I swear under the penalty of perjury that all of the information below is true and correct and to the best of my knowledge and informed consent.

2. I am a President of Defend our Freedoms Foundation which is designed to preserve the constitutional freedoms of the U.S. citizens. In my youth I lived in the communist dictatorship of the Soviet Union and I am greatly concerned about the loss of the constitutional freedoms of the US citizens in the past few years.

3. In May of 2013 I participated at a Washington DC rally organized by a number of the US congressmen protesting the mega amnesty of millions of illegals that is currently pushed by the Democratic party as well as targeting of the conservative organizations by the IRS.

4. At the rally I met a whistle blower, employee of the HESC -Higher Education Services Corporation, Ms. Laurie Hathaway.

5. Ms. Hathaway advised me that  she is desperately trying to provide the public with evidence of fraud committed by Barack Obama, specifically the fact that Barack Obama received an educational loan from HESC as a foreign citizen, a citizen of Indonesia. As a citizen of Indonesia he is not eligible to be the U.S. President. Ms. Hathaway stated that she forwarded this information to Sheriff Arpaio as well.

6. Ms. Hathaway has sworn to me that she personally saw the documents, showing Barack Obama listed as a foreign national, citizen of Indonesia in his loan documents.

7. Ms. Hathaway stated that the documents are never discarded and are kept in the vault at the HESC head quarters at Buffalo, New York. She advised me that other employees of the HESC saw the same documents and aware of Obama’s loans received based on his status of a foreign student and fraud committed by Obama in asserting his eligibility for the U.S. Presidency claiming the U.S. citizenship, while retaining the Indonesian citizenship.

8. I did my due diligence and checked and verified that Laurie Hathaway is indeed an employee of HESC in Buffalo, New York. I have in my position her e-mail address at the HESC and other identifying information.

9. Ms. Hathaway promised to obtain a copy of the document and forward it to me.

10. After the meeting I had one or two phone conversations with Ms. Hathaway and received one or two e-mails from her.

11. Shortly thereafter Ms. Hathaway’s cell phone was disconnected and nobody responded at her home number.

12. On 08.10.2013 I tried to contact her again. As I was leaving a message for her, a man answered the phone. The man sounded very frightened and asked me not to call or e-mail Ms. Hathaway because FBI is investigating  Ms. Hathaway because she blew the whistle and provided information to me. They are afraid of the FBI. This phone conversation took place at 10:59 am, PST on 08.10.2013.

13. Intimidation and harassment of the whistle blower Laurie Hathaway by Holder Department of Justice and Mueller/Comey FBI is akin to the intimidation of citizens by the Hitler NAZI Gestapo or SS troops. This nation is rapidly becoming another NAZI tyranny, unless this is stopped by someone in the  U.S. Congress or Judiciary who still retains one drop of decency, integrity, moral values and respect for the rule of law and the Constitution.  

I am attaching herein a 146 file of additional evidence showing the citizen of Indonesia, Barack Obama, using a stolen Social Security number and fabricated IDs as a basis of his identity  and eligibility to the U.S. Presidency and in order to defraud the U.S. citizens and usurp the position of the U.S. President and Commander-in Chief based on fraud, harassment, intimidation and use of multiple agencies of the U.S. government for purposes of terror an harassment of whistle blowers. I am prepared to testify before the U.S. Congress and attest to the authenticity of each and every document in the file as well as provide names of multiple other whistle blowers against Obama being terrorized and intimidated by the Department of Justice/FBI, other governmental officials, as well as by a number of state and federal judges.  

I am requesting an immediate investigation by the U.S. Congress of  the fact that a citizen of Indonesia, Barack Obama, is usurping the U.S. Presidency based on fraud, harassment,  intimidation and use of  stolen and fabricated IDs. I am also requesting a congressional investigation of the employees of the U.S. government, including employees of the Department of Justice and the FBI, federal and State judges, who are criminally complicit in the cover up of Obama’s fraudulent IDs and criminally complicit in terror and harassment of the whistle blowers who provided the aforementioned information to me.

End of Affidavit.

 Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ

08.10.2013

Another problem seems to have arisen. In her original affidavit of June 19, 2013, Taitz said:

6.   Whistleblower stated that she and several other employees made copies of the aforementioned foreign student record for Mr. Obama in case someone in the corporation management decides to destroy the original records.

I read that as meaning the Whistleblower had her own copy of the alleged documents. Now, look at paragraphs 6 and 9 above:

6. Ms. Hathaway has sworn to me that she personally saw the documents, showing Barack Obama listed as a foreign national, citizen of Indonesia in his loan documents.

9. Ms. Hathaway promised to obtain a copy of the document and forward it to me.

It doesn’t look like the Whistleblower actually has the paperwork. Next, in response to some criticism of her story, she made this post the next day on August 11, 2013:

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Posted on | August 11, 2013 | 1 Comment

(Title)   More information regarding HESC employee, whistle blower Laurie Hathaway, who is being harassed by the FBI due to the fact that she provided Attorney Orly Taitz information on Obama’s Indonesian citizenship and the fact that he received  HESC foreign citizen student loans

Some Obama operatives have attacked me, claiming that information regarding FBI investigation of HESC employee Laurie Hathaway is not true. They are claiming this for the following reasons:

a. the phone call was made on Saturday and HESC is closed on Saturday

b. FBI does not tell employees that they are being investigated.

c. HESC is in New York and would not be dealing with records from Occidental college

here is the response from attorney Orly Taitz:

a. the call was made not to HESC, but to Laurie’s home phone number, land line, which she gave me and I have in my possession. Last 2 digits are “76″

b. FBI questions individuals whom they investigate, as such Laurie knows that she is being investigated

c. Barack Obama was a resident of New York state while he studied at Columbia University, which is located in New York City. There are millions of individuals around the country who are residents of different states while on green card, student visas and so on and who are citizens of other countries. Keep in mind, Obama was removed from his mother’s passport when he obtained his Indonesian citizenship.

After this post, The Albany Times Union ran a story on Taitz and the HESC Whistleblower,  (See Note 3, below.) prompting this outburst:

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Posted on | August 13, 2013 | 5 Comments

1:55 PM (0 minutes ago)

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(Title)   HESC admits that Laurie Hathaway indeed an employee there, but claims not to have Obama’s records

Mr. Seiler
you wrote a defamatory article and did not include any documents

1. I demand that you provide your readers with actual documents
Please, see attached Obama’s record from Columbia university
I obtained it from the Student Clearing house. Military officer
Pamela Barnett received the same records. It shows Obama lying
about the length of his education in Columbia university. If you
look at the bottom of the page, you will see that he went to
Columbia for only 9 months, not 2 years, as he claims in his
biography. The question is, why is he lying about it? Please,
contact Columbia university and inquier about this record

2. I misspoke by stating Buffalo, NY, instead of Albany NY.
Ms. Hathaway works in Albany and she personally saw the records
there.

I believe HESC used the error in the name of the city to obfuscate
the records. I reside in CA, not in NY, and I did not know about HESC or Laurie
Hathaway.

3. There are other employees who saw Obama’s records. There is an
employee by first name Nick, he works with Laurie Hathaway.

Next,  in post number Four, Taitz appeals for her Flying Monkeys to find someone named “Nick,” who works with the Whistleblower and may have a copy of the documents. In paragraph 4, she is trying to find out if the FBI is investigating the Whistleblower which indicates to me that she once again lost contact with her.

FOUR – August 13, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 13, 2013 | 8 Comments

(Title)   HESC in Albany New York admitted that whistle blower Laurie Hathaway indeed works for them, but claim that they do not have records of  foreign student  loans for Obama or Soetoro.

Laurie Hathaway, whistle blower from HESC gave Taitz a name of yet another employee by name Nick, who works with her and who, also, examined Obama’s foreign student loan documents.

I am asking my supporters to contact HESC and request clarification, whether:

1. HESC does not have records now, but they might have existed before or whether

2.they have records of all loans received  from 1979 until now  and among all of these loans there was never a loan given to a student by last name Obama or Soetoro or Soebarkah or Bounel.

3. seek a response from Obama. As Obama states that he finished paying his student loans only in 2004, he admitted that he received student loans and the public would like to know from which institutions did he get student loans or grants, specifically in light of revelations by the whistle blower . As Obama stated that he came from a poor family and he went to all expensive private schools: Punahoa high school, Occidental college, Columbia university and Harvard, there should be multiple loans. Where did he get those loans?

4. contact Albany NY FBI and request information, whether they are investigating a whistle blower Laurie Hathaway for blowing the whistle on Obama and HESC and alerting an attorney that Obama received a student loan from HESC as a foreign student and is hiding this information and HESC is hiding this information from the public as well.

Finally, by August 14, 2013 the Whistleblower’s FaceBook page is down and Taitz is trying to make contact with some of her friends.

FIVE – August 14, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 14, 2013 | 15 Comments

(Title)   Can someone get in touch with Jocelyn Levy, who works with Laurie Hathaway at HESC, and see if she has a copy of Obama’s foreign student loan documents

Hathaway’s facebook page is deleted but three of her friends are Jocelyn levy (works at same place), cherylynn brewer, janet sweener. also work at same place Kimberly king, brenda eipp, kim vacc, bill ridings, anita norton Phillips, john j mullen , Karen Davidson Larsen, lori reinhart.

My GUESS is, that Laurie Hathaway is no longer available to Taitz, and is probably hiding out from her. It also looks like the incriminating documents don’t yet have an earthly manifestation. Thus, the question I asked in my first article on this seems to be answered. Taitz found a Smokeblower, not a Whistleblower.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is the actress, Linda Lovelace, from a 1972 movie about Watergate, called Deep Throat. Which two years later caused President Nixon to resign. I have not seen the movie, but I think she played the Whistleblower part.

Note 2. Previous Whistleblower Articles: Here they are in chronological order:

Did Orly Taitz Find A Whistleblower Or A Smokeblower???

Whistle Stop Or Obot Prank???

Taitz’s Whistleblower Still Blowing!!!

Where Oh Where Can The Whistleblower Be???

Note 3. The Albany Times Union Story:  I am not sure what she is complaining about. The story was pretty neutral. It may be found here:

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Birther-Proof-is-in-agency-s-safe-4729488.php

Note 4. For ESLs. The Image Easter Egg is a word play on “getting hosed” which can mean getting taken in by a con artist, or putting on hosiery as in the picture.  To “swallow” a story is to believe it, when perhaps one shouldn’t.   To accept without question, protest, or resentment.  <swallow an insult> <a hard story to swallow>

Hook, line, and sinker is an idiomatic phrase meaning totally or completely.  She fell for our story hook, line, and sinker. They believed every word hook, line, and sinker.


Cato Institute Busts Birthers’ Chops!!!

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Kato Tries To Slap Some Sense Into An Unidentified Birther

Ilya Shapiro of The Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, busted the chops of the two citizen parents with a recent post on Ted Cruz’s eligibility. Here are a few excerpts:

What’s a “natural born citizen”? The Constitution doesn’t say, but the Framers’ understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents — in a manner regulated by federal law — and birth within the nation’s territory regardless of parental citizenship. The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.

There’s no ideological debate here: Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe and former solicitor general Ted Olson — who were on opposite sides in Bush v. Gore among other cases — co-authored a memorandum in March 2008 detailing the above legal explanation in the context of John McCain’s eligibility. Recall that McCain — lately one of Cruz’s chief antagonists — was born to U.S. citizen parents serving on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone.

In other words, anyone who is a citizen at birth — as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later (“naturalizes”) or who isn’t a citizen at all — can be president.

So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/yes-ted-cruz-can-be-president

Of course, Ted Cruz meets those qualifications! Sooo, my hat is off to a fellow Think Tanker for getting it right!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is Bruce Lee playing the role of Kato in The Green Hornet TV series. I am not sure who the guy in the mask is. Just for what it is worth trivia-wise, the Green Hornet was a relative of The Lone Ranger!

Note 2. Busting Chops. For ESLs, the Free Dictionary defines chops, and busting someone’s chops  as:

chops (chps) pl.n.
1. The jaws.
2.a. The mouth.
b. The lower cheeks or jowls.
c. Muttonchops.
3. Slang The technical skill with which a jazz or rock musician performs.

Idiom: bust (someone’s) chops
1. To scold or insult someone.
2. To disappoint or defeat someone.
3. To hold a building contractor to the letter of an agreement.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chops

The Image Easter Egg is a word play on the “Oh Hai” Internet meme, and the word “Hai” which is loudly expressed during Karate and Kung Fu strikes. “Hai” means “yes” in Japanese.


Jim Robinson Fires Cruz Missile At Free Republic Birthers!!!

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It May Have Looked Like A Destroyer, But It Was Really A Cruz Ship

The Free Republic Birthers got a wake up call yesterday from Jim Robinson, the crusty owner of the website.  On a thread about the individual who made a Birther out of himself at a Mark Levin book signing,  Judge Robinson settled the Ted Cruz eligibility question for the Freepers:

Jim Robinson at Comment 43: Ted Cruz was born to an American mother. He’s a natural born citizen and patriot in every sense of the word and I will support him to the hilt if he decides to run and is the strongest conservative running!! In fact, if that happens, FR will be Cruz Country!!

Go, TED, GO!!

FU Tokyo Rove, Chris Cristy, Jeb Bush, McCain, McBoehner, McGrahammesty, McFlake, McConnell and ALL GOP-e RINOS!!

The tea party rebellion is on!!

Anyone can’t live with that (as the say in Russia) tough shitski!!

and, when hit with the typical Birther ” But we’re just constitutionalists!” claims:

Jim Robinson at Comment 89: I’m upholding my oath. Cruz is a natural born citizen despite any claims to the contrary from the legions of internet “sea lawyers!”

and again, when asked, “Do you intend to ban those Conservatives that disagree with you on this matter”

Jim Robinson at Comment 91: Depends on the degree of nastiness. Don’t get nasty against our freepers or our conservative candidates.

and, when pushed some more:

Jim Robinson at 126: I said if Cruz is the strongest conservative running. But neither Cruz or Palin have declared. We’ll have to wait and see. And as far as I’m concerned, I’ll go with Levin and others who say Cruz is a natural born citizen.

Robinson had more to say, but I just wanted to provide enough to get across the gist of what happened. Here is a link to the thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3059395/posts

I was once a Freeper, but when I jumped on the two citizen parents Birthers there, I got the ZOT! There is a link in Note 1 below to the article I wrote in response, which has some undercover photos of the Freeper Birthers in full whine mode.  Jim Robinson has several problems on his hands, and not easy ones to solve. He has flatly decreed, and correctly, that Ted Cruz is eligible. Yet, he has not come right out and told the Birthers to knock off all the “two citizen parents” stuff.

By the very nature of things, it is not the “birth certificate” Birthers who have a problem with Cruz, unless they are also “two citizen parents” type Birthers.  And frankly, the two citizen parents Birthers are beyond reasoning with. They have repeatedly lost in court, and are not fazed.  Their argument is nonsensical to begin with. What person with a functioning brain really believes that Emer de Vattel is the source of American citizenship law??? Yet, they persist in the silliness.

What reasonably intelligent person can’t read the Wong Kim Ark (WKA) case a half dozen times and get the point, that the 14th Amendment put natural born citizenship for those born inside the country into the Constitution, where it would be safe from both either state and Congressional tinkering? It make take several readings, but goodness, two of the seven sections are dedicated to natural born subjects and natural born citizens. Another section is dedicated to showing how the 14th Amendment affirms and incorporates that previous law into itself. And still, the two citizen parents birthers are out there trying to defeat an 1898 SCOTUS holding with a 1758 legal treatise by a Swiss guy. Or some legal dictionary they found at a garage sale. Or, some case prior to 1898, which even if they were reading it correctly, would be reversed by WKA.

To paraphrase John Donne, from his Love’s Alchemy poem, “Hope not for mind [reason] in Birthers!” And to make it worse, it is not as if the Obots and Anti-Birthers aren’t doing their best to educate the poor addled two citizen parents birthers.  We write words enough to stretch to Pluto and back, and they still ignore us.  Jim Robinson is delusional if he thinks anything short of banning them or completely censoring them for preaching their nonsense is going to stop them.

That is where his second problem comes in. Because the longer they preach the “two citizen parents” nonsense, the more it sinks into the minds of low information voters. It will not matter to many of them that the nonsense is being presented against Obama, and not against conservative candidates. They will repeat the nonsense as if they know what they are talking about, and then refuse to vote for people like Bobby Jindal, Marc Rubio, or Ted Cruz. If he cares about his conservative causes, Robinson must tell them to knock off all the two citizen parents nonsense period, or get banned.  He has already let this nonsense go on for too long, and the longer it goes on, the worse it gets for Cruz and others.

Finally, he has the problem of how to go about banning or zotting them with a straight face.  He had no problem setting forth restrictions on rampant paranoia like Alex Jones’ Prison Planet, and overtly sovereign citizen theories. He didn’t let that stuff ever take hold at his website. It is different with the Birthers because he shares responsibility for letting them get to this point. At Free Republic they formed a clique and went around screaming Troll! and Obot! at people who disagreed with them.  Some of us got zotted. Free Republic became Birther friendly territory.

And fertile ground it was. Some of the dumbest Birthers I ever met  took root and grew at Free Republic, including but not limited to: Edge919, DiogenesLamp, and Butterdezillion. Robinson should have put his foot down a long time ago, the same as he would have if a group was telling Freepers they didn’t have to pay income taxes. But he didn’t,  and now the place is full of them.

In summary, half measures won’t work, the Birthers continue to do damage to the conservative cause, and they are in large enough numbers that it will hurt the website to ZOT! them all.  The best alternative I can see is for him to resort to outright censorship. He needs to flatly state that the two citizen parent stuff is complete bullsh*t,  and anybody who preaches it, and misleads other conservatives, even if it is in relation to Obama, is going to get the ZOT!.

It should be interesting to watch.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1.  Squeeky’s Free Republic ZOT!: Like I said above, there are photographs of the Birthers!

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/zot-free-republic-birthers-run-in-panic-stricken-terror-from-the-truth/


Birthers Raise The Dickens With Mark Levin!!! (Or, Levin Let Live???)

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The Birthers Kept Dragging Up The Ghost Of Poor Emer de Vattel To Scare People

Once again, an insistent Birther crashes another party and provides a good dose of buzzkill. This time, it was Mark Levin’s book signing tour for The Liberty Amendments. Here are a few excerpts, that I paragraphed to make easier to read, and the entire transcription is at the link below:

Mark Levin:  Before we jump in, all I can say is, Wow!  You guys, open your microphones a second.  Thousands of people at both booksignings.  Wasn’t that unbelievable?

Staffer: There were a lot of people there, it was great.

Mark Levin:  And the people were just spectacular, weren’t they?  Except for one guy in New Jersey which I’ll talk about later.

Staffer:  [chuckles]

Mark Levin:   This… this birther stuff is way, way out of contr…”Now Ted Cruz” … I swear I almost hit this guy… “Ted Cruz is not a citizen!”  No, he’s born to an American mother, no he’s born in Canada to an American mother.  So all you pregnant ladies traveling overseas:  According to certain birther, uh, groups, if you have a child while you are on vacation, they’re not Americans.  They’re not natural-born Americans.  I just thought you’d wanna know, if you were thinking of your kid as a potential presidential candidate, uh, because they say so.  They have no historical background whatsoever… None!  But it’s, it’s just amazing!  Absolutely stunning!

and:

Mark Levin: Just a wonderful group of people, uh, we were in Bookends, Ridgewood, New Jersey, and everyone was respectful until…and it was hot outside, it got hot, hotter than uh originally forecast and it was a very long line, and you know we try to go through it quickly out of respect for everybody in line, but I also try to be respectful to everybody in line.  Um…but this fella [breathes out] gets in my face and first of all he points to some obscure note on page I don’t know whatever and he said [cough] excuse me folks, and he says “You were wrong about this, you were wrong about”, and honestly I, I, I didn’t have time to read it, and I’ll go back and check it, if I’m wrong about it I’ll fix it, and that happens sometimes in these books when you’re going into the notes, you might put a word when you mean another word, or a state when you mean another state, so I’m going to check it out, I just haven’t had time.

And then he goes, he says uh “And Ted Cruz is not eligible to be president.  He’s not a natural-born Citizen.”  And I thought to myself, you know I, this is not a subject that I have studied so thoroughly, but he’s born of a mother who is an American citizen.  Doesn’t that make him a natural-born Ci…  “No, but he was in Canada when he was born!”  Okay, but she wasn’t Canadian, she was an American citizen!  She was an American citizen.  And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that.  And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen!

That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution.  So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful.  If he was born of non-citizens in a foreign country that would be easy, and there’s a lot of easy cases.  So the guy gets in my face, and he starts pointing and pointing, and I looked at him and I pointed back, and I cursed, unfortunately, but the, because, uh you know, he was…he was a nutjob.  And I thought to myself: Why do you come here and do that?  Is this, is this sort of the way you…you  excite yourself or something?

and finally:

Mark Levin: But what particularly bothered me about this guy…he was disrespectful in his conduct to everybody else standing there. They were pleasant, talking to each other, you know…listening, watching and so forth.  I’m a big boy; I’ve seen this and a thousand times worse.  But he was quite obnoxious.

There is a lot more at this link:

http://theridgewoodblog.net/radio-host-mark-levin-addresses-ted-cruz-eligibility-issue-with-ridgewood-resident/

This is not something new with the Birther issues.  I don’t knock the Birthers for expressing their opinions with passion, but it would be nice if they occasionally took the time to remember that all they have really, truly are just. . . OPINIONS. And when it comes to the value of those OPINIONS, these little things we call COURTS and JUDGES have a whole lot more relevant and meaningful OPINIONS. For the same reasons that an Umpire’s OPINION that the runner is safe, or out, is a lot more relevant and meaningful than either the players’ OPINION or the people in the stands’ OPINION.

Whether or not Ted Cruz is eligible is not yet chiseled in stone. After a court decides, and the appeals are settled, then the question will be answered. In the meantime, most people who have read the various legal cases think that he is.  In a previous post, I took the time to frame the question in the way I see it being framed in a future lawsuit, and then I answered the concerns the way that I think a real judge would.

https://birtherthinktank.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/apuzzo-order1.pdf

This is also another reason why the Birthers are so stuck in their rut. They have way too much passion, and way too little detached reflection about the issue. They are so convinced that they are right, that they aren’t able to read and comprehend what decisions like Wong Kim Ark (1898) are really all about. At least, that is my OPINION. But when it comes to Ted Cruz, there hasn’t yet been a candidate with his particular background.  There hasn’t been a candidate born overseas and made a citizen by an act of naturalization. There isn’t a judicial decision which directly covers him. So, his eligibility is still an open question.

Or as Mark Levin said above:

And so, the issue isn’t what the Constitution says in that regard, the issue is how do we interpret that.  And the way I interpret it is, his mother’s an American citizen, so he’s an American citizen! That’s not a constitutional issue, that’s an interpretive issue… or, a statutory issue if Congress has passed some law subsequent to that to enforce that provision of the Constitution.  So, the face of the Constitution isn’t terribly helpful.

That is not an OPINION. That is a FACT!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is Ebenezer Scrooge and the Ghost of Jacob Marley from Charles Dicken’s A Christmas Carol. I could not trace it back to a particular production.

Note 2. Mario Apuzzo, Esq.’s response to the above Order. The above order generated a response from Mario Apuzzo, Esq. His response is linked, and included in the original post here:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/with-2020-foresight-the-once-and-future-apuzzo/

Note 3. The Dickens. For ESL’s this is a word play on Charles Dickens, the author of A Christmas Carol, and the phrase, raise the dickens, which means:

raise the dickens (with someone or something)

to act in some extreme manner; to make trouble; to behave wildly; to be very angry.

John was out all night raising the dickens. That cheap gas I bought really raised the dickens with my car’s engine.

http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/dickens

Note 4. Puns That Might Have Been. Well, I checked out the map, because I was really hoping that Ridgewood N.J. was a suburb of Philadelphia. I was just dying to make the Image Easter Egg:

“He’s Been Phil. Spectred???”

(from the Simon & Garfunkel song.)

Note 5. The Prequel. Mark Levin is not real fond of Birthers in the first place, having once said on his radio show:

I want you to listen to me on my social sites. Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida. He is a natural born United States citizen. And if I get any more of this Birther crap up there. . . this is a warning, and I don’t care who you are, you’re going to be banned. Okay? This is a site I put up for rational people. Marco Rubio was born in Miami, Florida in 1940, excuse me, 1971. He’s 40. There’s no debate. So take that Birther crap somewhere else. Just a warning. . . got it? I’m not into all that crap. You can go somewhere else for that.

Mark Levin
Sept. 28, 2011


A Black Night For Team Arpaio???

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He Must Have Gotten Some Strange Kicks From Denial???

Team Arpaio and the Cold Case Posse aren’t exactly having the best of times lately.  They can’t get a real, live prosecutor interested in their silly report that concludes Obama’s online image of his long form birth certificate is a forgery.  After a year and half, they can’t even release the report to the public for fear of ridicule.  On a good day, Republican congressmen merely ignore them. On most days, which are not good days, the congressmen cancel out meetings with them as soon as they find out what kind of idiot with whom they accidentally scheduled a meeting. Nightly, they pray for Alzheimers to strike Republican leaders so they will finally find someone to agree with them.

Human beings are proving a huge obstacle, and now, the mean old Obots, particularly the blogger, NBC,  have gone and made things worse by uncovering the source of the online birth certificate anomalies – – -A Xerox Workcentre machine which does all the strange and weird things that so discomfort the Birthers.  RC, of the RC Radio Blog, has many articles up on this issue, including a hilarious video:

http://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2013/08/24/mike-zullo-finds-out-about-the-xerox-evidence/

There are several more articles at the link which explain in simple terms how the online anomalies occurred. It looks convincing to me! The Obots have not been silent about their discovery! After sneaking their way onto Gallups’ radio show, the cat is out of the bag in the Birther world. Finally, Carl Gallups and Mike Zullo had to address the issues about the Xerox 7655. Sooo, how did they handle it???

DENIAL!

Deputy Mike “The Arizona Kid” Zullo recently appeared on Gallups radio show, and here is a transcript of their remarks, from the first part of the show:

Gallups: What’s your response to these Obots?

(3:54)  Mike Zullo: I think they’re delusional. I think they’re deluded that they are some vessel of authority somewhere. I don’t know in what stratosphere.  But I don’t owe them anything. I have never engaged them in two years. I don’t really pay a lot of attention to them. And what little I do know of them, aside from the identities of a few, and one that I am intently focused on now. It really just seems to me to be nothing more than a big disinformation campaign. It goes beyond even misinformation. It is disinformation. And for a definition, it’s false information that is deliberately, and a lot of times covertly spread, in order to influence public opinion, or to obscure the truth. And that to me, is about what it is, so to even deal with them as far as I’m concerned is brain damage. I don’t see any reason to do it.

(5:22) Carl Gallups: They are absolutely ever-loving out of their delusional minds. I mean they are absolutely mentally challenged.

http://ppsimmons.blogspot.com/2013/08/i-think-theyre-delusional-mike-zullo-on.html

They went on to discuss the Xerox Workcentre and characterized it as not relevant to the investigation, and stated that the investigation had moved well beyond that point. Which only casts more suspicions on the underlying Cold Case Posse report. If it is that great, why is it still secret after a year and a half? Why don’t any prosecutors seem interested in it? Why is it that Deputy Zullo has to go to Washington D.C. and beg the VIPs and congressman to do something about it? Why does he keep getting rejected?

If Deputy Zullo has any legitimate questions why this is happening, perhaps he needs to do something he has refused to do for two years- and engage with the Obots and anti-Birthers.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is from the 1975 film, Monty Python and the Holy Grail. This particular scene occurs when the King meets the Black Knight.  Here is a youtube video of this particular scene:


Kangaroos On Mars!!! Are They Naturally Born???

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The Crew Of The Ten Year Long Mars Explorer Mission Weren’t Sure How Their Kids Would Be Received Back On Earth

Adrian Nash, of the h2ooflife Blog, and frequent commenter here, has written a new post, and here are a few excerpts:

Martians, Koreans, Kangaroos, and Natural Citizens

No animal or human that ever lived was born as a member of its parents’ group and species because of where it was born.  It’s nature and membership are, and always have been, organic and automatic by the immutable laws of life.

An example is the Kangaroo.  Is an infant kangaroo a member of the kangaroo family because it was born in Australia?  But all kangaroos are born in Australia so that fact must be central in determining its species, right? That couldn’t be more absurd.  Where kangaroos are born is merely incidental to the concurrent fact that they are the product of kangaroo parents.  Two facts: one is determinative and the other is irrelevant.  But some argue that the law of natural membership doesn’t exist, or doesn’t apply in a sociological & political relationship fashion as it does with humans in regard to their family membership.

If the Mars crew was composed of Americans, and some of the women were impregnated by Martian men, what would be the nature of their off-spring if born in the United States after returning to Earth?  Would they be natural born Earthlings?  Would they be natural born humans?  Would they be natural born Americans?  Or something else…-something different?

Barack Obama is just such an alien-like child.  His father was not a North American.  He was not an American citizen.  He was not an America immigrant.  He was a non-immigrant alien, and as such, even if one considers his off-spring to be blessed with U.S. citizenship thanks to the 14th Amendment, one cannot defend nor logically propose the idea that such a person could father a wholly natural member of American society, and a wholly natural born citizen of the United States anymore than Earthlings could give birth to natural Martians or Martians could give birth to natural humans.

If a Martian couple, with the female pregnant, were to come to Earth with the crew, and she gave birth in America, would her child be a natural born American citizen, or something else?  According to our insane national policy it would an American citizen, but that would not make it a natural citizen because that is something that law can’t produce.

Only nature can do that via parents who are members of the country and nation when their child is born. Only the Law of natural membership can produce natural members, -not human law.  All it can do is produce legal members, and that is all that Obama is.

http://h2ooflife.wordpress.com/2013/08/15/martians-koreans-natural-citizens/

What Mr. Nash argues for is a more logical basis for citizenship than place of birth.  That isn’t necessarily a bad argument, but it is simply not the current state of American law. Almost two years ago I wrote a post which directly addressed this point and which cited an 1898 American Law Review article written shortly after the Wong Kim Ark case was decided. To make it easier to copy and paste,  I have transcribed most of page 8 into text:

But the error the dissent apparently falls into is that it does not recognize that the United States, as a sovereign power, has the right to adopt any rule of citizenship it may see fit, and that the rule of international law does not furnish, ex proprie vigore [of its own force], the sole and exclusive test of citizenship of the United States, however superior it may be deemed to the rule of the common law. It further does not give sufficient weight, in interpreting the 14th Amendment, to the doctrine which was prevalent in the country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and of the amendment in question, which was undoubtedly that of the common law, and not of international law.

With respect to the superiority of the international law doctrine over that of the common law, it may be conceded that while the rule of international law, that the political status of children follows that of the father, and of the mother, when the child is illegitimate, may be more logical and satisfactory than that of the common law, which makes the mere accidental place of birth the test, still if the Fourteenth Amendment is declaratory of the common law doctrine, it is difficult to see what valid objection can be raised thereto, nor how the subject of citizenship of the United States can be deemed to be governed by the rule of international law in the absence of an express adoption of that rule, any more than it could be governed by the law of France, or of China.

It was only an eight page article, and it is reproduced in image form here:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2011/10/21/remember-the-maine-battleship-remember-the-wong-kim-ark/

The author of that article, Marshall B. Woodworth, actually agreed with Mr. Nash that using parentage was preferable to using place of birth. However, unlike Mr. Nash and all the other two citizen parent Birthers, Woodworth also recognized the actual state of the law. And, in these lines from above,

the doctrine which was prevalent in the country at the time of the adoption of the Constitution and of the amendment in question, which was undoubtedly that of the common law, and not of international law.

Woodworth also recognized that common law controlled the question, not something like Vattel’s The Law of Nations. And what was that common law??? From Wong Kim Ark:

It thus clearly appears that, by the law of England for the last three centuries, beginning before the settlement of this country and continuing to the present day, aliens, while residing in the dominions possessed by the Crown of England, were within the allegiance, the obedience, the faith or loyalty, the protection, the power, the jurisdiction of the English Sovereign, and therefore every child born in England of alien parents was a natural-born subject unless the child of an ambassador or other diplomatic agent of a foreign State or of an alien enemy in hostile occupation of the place where the child was born.

III. The same rule was in force in all the English Colonies upon this continent down to the time of the Declaration of Independence, and in the United States afterwards, and continued to prevail under the Constitution as originally established.

Nothing there about any two-citizen parents requirement. Which all leads back to questions I once posed to Mario Apuzzo, Esq. Why don’t you just admit that Obama was and is legally eligible for the office? Why don’t you just admit that there currently is no two-citizen parent requirement? Then, why don’t you work to change the law?

I submit the same questions to Mr. Nash.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is the cast of Captain Kangaroo, about which Wiki says:

Captain Kangaroo was an American children’s television series which aired weekday mornings on the American television network CBS for nearly 30 years, from October 3, 1955 until December 8, 1984, making it the longest-running nationally broadcast children’s television program of its day. In 1986, the American Program Service (now American Public Television, Boston) integrated some newly produced segments into reruns of past episodes, distributing the newer version of the series until 1993.

The show was conceived and the title character played by Bob Keeshan, who based the show on “the warm relationship between grandparents and children.” Keeshan had portrayed the original Clarabell the Clown on The Howdy Doody Show when it aired on NBC. Captain Kangaroo had a loose structure, built around life in the “Treasure House” where the Captain (the name “kangaroo” came from the big pockets in his coat) would tell stories, meet guests, and indulge in silly stunts with regular characters, both humans and puppets.

This show was before my time, but I think I must have had some videotapes, because the Dancing Bear really seems familiar. And for all the Birthers, I present:

Note 2. The Image Easter Egg. For ESLs, Mr. Green Jeans was a regular character on the show, and Martians are often presented as Little Green Men, sooo it was just a silly word play about the alleged Martian children in the Image.


When Will The Birthers Use Sex???

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Rep. Tex “Tubby” Thompson Didn’t Know It Yet, But He Was About To Become A Birther!

The Birthers are nothing if not persistent, and one can not help but wonder exactly how far they will go to get a congressman to introduce Team Arpaio’s foolishness and call for an investigation into Obama’s eligibility. They have tried some marches and demonstrations here and there, but hardly anybody shows up. Some are hanging off of overpasses with signs. That’s no fun in the summer heat. And dangerous to boot.

They have taken to showing up on radio shows as unannounced callers, and popping into Town Hall meetings like Princess Miki Booth did the other day to embarrass or intimidate their representatives.  I wouldn’t be surprised to see them roll in some little kid in a wheelchair that they promised a new bike and X-box to if he would shave his head and hold out a copy of Zullo’s Affidavit to “the nice congressman.” But I also wonder why they haven’t just resorted to the oldest trick in the book and used the “Honeypot.” About which Wiki says:

Love, honeypots, and recruitment

U.S. intelligence services, for example, are concerned when their own personnel could be subject to sexual blackmail. This applied to any homosexual relationship until the mid-1990s, and also applied to heterosexual relationships with most foreign nationals. See honeypots in espionage fiction for fictional examples. In some cases, especially when the national was a citizen of a friendly nation, the relationship needed to be reported. Failure to do so, even with a friendly nation, could result in dismissal.

One former CIA officer said that while sexual entrapment wasn’t generally a good tool to recruit a foreign official, it was sometimes employed successfully to solve short-term problems. Seduction is a classic technique; “swallow” was the KGB tradecraft term for women, and “raven” the term for men, trained to seduce intelligence targets.

During the Cold War, the KGB (and allied services, including the East German Stasi under Markus Wolf, and the Cuban Intelligence Directorate (formerly known as Dirección General de Inteligencia or DGI)) frequently sought to entrap CIA officers. The KGB believed that Americans were sex-obsessed materialists, and that U.S. spies could easily be entrapped by sexual lures. The best-known incident, however, was of Clayton Lonetree, a Marine guard supervisor at the Moscow embassy, who was seduced by a “swallow” who was a translator at the Embassy of the United States in Moscow. Once the seduction took place, she put him in touch with a KGB handler. The espionage continued after his transfer to Vienna, although he eventually turned himself in.

The Soviets used sex not only for direct recruitment, but as a contingency where an American officer might need to be compromised in the future. The CIA itself made limited use of sexual recruitment against foreign intelligence services. “Coercive recruitment generally didn’t work. We found that offers of money and freedom worked better”. If the Agency found a Soviet intelligence officer had a girlfriend, they would try to recruit the girlfriend as an access agent. Once the CIA personnel had access to the Soviet officer, they might attempt to double him.

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Surely there are some hot little Birther chicks who would take one for the team, so  to speak.  Seduce a congressman from a Bible Belt state, and take pictures. The kinkier the better. And there are professionals who would do it for money. It isn’t like your average congressman has a lot of morals to begin with. Once snared, I bet you would see a call for an investigation quicker than you could say junket!

Sooo, I wonder when the Birthers will think of this??? They certainly have the money, and they certainly have the desire.  And, they are not above doing extra-legal things, like applying for someone else’s social security number information. All the necessary elements are in place. Therefore, I think this is just a matter of WHEN, not IF.

Remember, you heard it here first!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is Louise Brooks, from the 1929 film, Pandora’s Box. This is a great film!


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