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Lord Monckton Comes Back To Haunt The Birthers???

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Proving He Is A Human, Lord Monckton Correctly Signs The Answer To “Nine + 1”

One of my favorite Birthers is Lord Monckton of Brenchley. He has a lot of class, and is not afraid to stick his neck out on  contrarian causes. Which is a lot more rare than you might think.  Monckton is a natural born bon vivant, just brimming over with insoucience. I believe he propounds the Birther foolishness just to stir up crap in the colonies.  I can see him sitting in his easy chair in front of a good fire, feet propped up on some peasant, and a leather bound volume of Robert Southey in hand, reading about poor Mary, the Maid of the Inn, and chortling about maniacs, in general. So it is fun to finally put him to good use whomping some Birthers right upside the head.

Anyway, over at ObamaReleaseYourRecords, they have strung together three idiotic stories to create a Frankenstein Manchurian Candidate out of Obama:

Three Men Told Of Obama’s
Manchurian Presidency In Advance
By SA

First:

Marine Claims While In Hawaii In 1980 He Met Young Obama Who Told Him He Was Born In Mombasa, Kenya And Wanted To Be President One Day.

and second:

Ayers Family Postman Claims He Was Told By Bill Ayers’ Mother That Obama Was A Foreign Student. He Also Claims He Met Obama Outside The Ayers Home And Was Told By Obama Himself That He Was Going To Be President.

and third:

Physicist Thomas Fife Claims While In Russia In 1992 He Was Told By Former KGB Agents The U.S. Will Have A Black, Soviet Agent As President Soon Named Barack.

Each of these has a video, and the story can be found at this link:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/07/video-three-men-told-of-obamas.html

I know that two of these stories have already been debunked,  but I will deal with the substantive claims in another Internet Article(s). For now, I want to take the easy way out, like the Birthers usually do, and simply debunk this by using some Monckton Math!  Some time ago Lord Monckton made Birther Headlines by stringing together some calculations of odds. For example, if you roll  a set of dice, there are 36 possible combinations (6 x 6=36) and therefore 1 chance in 36 of getting a particular combination. (egs. a “6” on the first die, and a “5” on the second one.)

A person could add another set of odds to this, and then calculate the overall odds, although conceptually the result is meaningless. For example, the odds of drawing the Jack of Spades from a standard deck, with no jokers, is 1 in 52. You could calculate the chance  of  first rolling a 6, then a 5, and then drawing the Jack, as (1/6) x (1/6) x (1/52). This works out to 1 chance in 1,872,  although I am not sure why you would care.

Anyway, Monckton strung together a series of estimated odds on Obama’s birth certificate  issue and supposedly arrived at some miniscule chance that the document was genuine.  This was conceptually flawed approach. With dice, or cards, the total number of chances is discreet. There are six possibilities for each roll, for each die. Meanwhile, Monckton used such well established “odds” as:

Lavishly funded bureaucracy uses wonky typewriter:” 10:1

The fact that the registrar’s signature-stamp on the electronic form can be moved about: 100:1 against.

Use of “African” contrary to written form-filling rules and 20 years before the term came into common use: 25:1

It was a fun read, but laughable. No one but a MORON would have taken it seriously, (I estimate 1000 to 1 against a rational person falling for it.)  BUT, ORYR ran with the story, here:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2012/09/obama-eligibility-odds-1-in-62-quintillion.html

Sooo, lets all play goofball in the same park! I hereby make the following conservative estimates:

1. Odds that the Marine is telling the truth – 1 in 100; (This story has been debunked.)

2. Odds that if the Marine was accurate, and that he actually met Obama – 1 in 1000; (Assuming there were only 1,000 young black men on the whole island.)

3. Odds that the Postman’s memory was correct – 1 in 3; (Simply estimated odds of accurately remembering such an encounter, as opposed to a false memory.)

4. Odds that if the Postman’s memory was correct, he actually met Obama – 1 in 1000; (Again, assuming there were only 1,000 young black men in Chicago. Am I being conservative here, or what???)

5. Odds that the Ruskie is accurate about deep cover agents inserted for that particular purpose – 1 in 500; (Really, trying to game the Presidency that many years in advance with a Black American???)

I could go on and on, like Monckton, and add some more “odds”  to really zing the number up into the gazillion range, but this will suffice.  Now, let’s do some Monckton Math, and see how this all works out. (1/100) x (1/1000) x (1/3) x (1/1000) x (1/500) (Hmmm, I get 1 chance in 150 Billion that the ORYR story is true! Oops. I messed up. That’s actually a  better chance of being true than most Birther claims.

Uh, never mind.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is from the 1931 film, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.

Note 2. Lord Monckton has been the subject of two previous articles here:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/09/26/lord-moncktons-mathematical-folly-or-odds-botchkins/

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/08/29/the-british-hysterical-society-presents-lord-monckton-or-a-flashman-in-the-pan/

Like I said, the ORYR stories are a little long in the tooth: The Postman also made appearances, including:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/corsi-goes-postal-with-hearsay-evidence/

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/03/30/the-dianna-is-back-in-the-ssr-or-shpekin-of-the-postman/

The Marine got clobbered. also:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/03/20/the-precedent-for-the-prescient-president-or-meeting-the-jung-obama/

There is also a link in the Marine story, to the Barackryphal Blog, which is an excellent read:

http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2011/08/jim-racebannon-bancroft-birtherisms.html

Note 3.  Mary, The Maid of the Inn. Yes, of course there is such a poem! I like Robert Southey. Most of his writings are not overwhelmingly fantastic, but when you pick up a book of his, you find yourself still reading several hours later.

Southey_9_Mary_Maid_of_Inn

Note 4. The Caption and the Image Easter Egg. Many websites and comment sections now ask you to “prove you are a human” by answering a math question, like that. For ESL’s “peering in”, in the sense of looking in a window, is a wordplay on Lord Monckton’s insistence on presenting himself as a “peer of the realm.”


The Dianna Spins!!! (Or, Girlfriend IS The Whirling Dervish!!!)

"The Dianna" And Other Birther Journalists Practice Synchronized Spinning

Well, I have some good news and some bad news for you. The good news is that Dianna Cotter, aka The Dianna aka Freeper Danae, left Russia and Pravda and made her way back to America. Perhaps Jim Robinson of Free Republic made an impression when he verbally spanked her about writing in Pravda:

“To: Danae
Don’t be an idiot. Continue attacking our conservative candidates with this nonsense and or our conservative FReepers you’re going to get the boot from FR. Take your fantasies elsewhere. America hating communist propaganda rag Pravda is appropriate. Wake up.
96 posted on March 18, 2012 5:39:20 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Rebellion is not just brewing, rebellion is here!!)”

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/03/25/free-republic-tells-the-dianna-to-stfu-about-santorum-birtherism/

The bad news is that she is still spinning the same old Birther dribble that she always does.  Cotter is like a guitar student who just knows one chord, Em7/A, and every song she plays has the same weird, disturbing, half-bubble-off, sound. This time she graces The Western Center for Journalism with her dissonance.  Her spin has become predictable. Here are a few excerpts:

Barack Obama Was A Foreign Student – American Media Threatened Into Silence

On March 7th, 2012, Pravda called out the U.S. press for its deliberate neglect of the largest scandal in modern American history. Maricopa County, Arizona Sheriff Joe Arpaio released credible forensic evidence that Barack Obama, presumed President of the United States, presented to the world a forged Birth Certificate on April 27th, 2011.

Since then, the scandal has only expanded. Former United States Postal Service worker Allen Hulton has recently come forward with compelling testimony given under Oath, which leads to only one conclusion: Barack Obama attended College in the United States as a Foreign Student.

Huh??? Compelling evidence which leads to only one conclusion??? You have to dig for it, because it isn’t directly expressed in her story. But you know what the COMPELLING EVIDENCE was??? A dead lady, Mrs. Ayers, told Postman Hulton back in the 1980’s or maybe the 1990’s that her son and his wife,  Bill and Bernardine Ayers, were sponsoring a black foreign student. Postman Hulton says he met the black kid once, and he thinks it was Barack Obama.

That’s it. The Story of The Century. Some hearsay from a dead lady from 25-30 years ago.  Perhaps Cotter just lacks imagination, because I can sure come up with a lot more than one conclusion. How about:

1. The Old Postman didn’t meet Barack Obama at all, but some other black kid.

2. The Old Postman is just mixed up and mis-remembers what Mrs. Ayers told him.

3. Mrs. Ayers was mixed up and just thought the kid was a foreign student.

4. The Old Postman is fibbing.

5. The Old Postman met Barack Obama, but he wasn’t the same black kid as the foreign student.

Gee, that is five conclusions I can reach, and I am not even warmed up. Cotter tries to give her story some steadier legs by adding the under Oath part. In the story, she also says:

Mr. Hu[l]ton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.

Hmmm. Now let’s see, the Mrs. Ayers is dead, so there is no one to dispute what she may or may not have told Hulton. So exactly how much danger is there of anyone proving perjury when there were no witnesses and the other person is dead??? Zippo.  But Cotter is not one to be bothered with actual thinking.  For her it is just spin, spin,and spin.

The rest of the story may be found here, but it looks pretty much like a reprint of her March 29, 2012 Pravda article, except for the Update 3-29-2012 section found in the Pravda article:

http://www.westernjournalism.com/barack-obama-foreign-student-american-media-threatened-into-silence/

You get the usual Cotter themes: Obama was a British citizen; Obama was an Indonesian citizen; The online legal search firm, Justia, scrubbed the links to the irrelevant case of Minor v. Happersett;  Obama is threatening everybody; and the American press is scared to touch this. And a few others. But here is something interesting! It is very first sentence of her article, found above:

On March 7th, 2012, Pravda called out the U.S. press. . .

Did they??? Did they really??? Let’s see. Oh, I think she is right. I found the March 7th Pravda article. Here is the statement:

The American Press is deliberately hiding the evidence published on the internet about this defrauding of the American public and the deliberate evisceration of the Constitution of the United States. It is hiding Barack Obama’s Fraud as it has been revealed by a Sheriff in Arizona. The silence of the American press would be unbelievable if it weren’t so blatantly obvious.

It is nearly as egregious as the audacity of Obama’s fraud itself.

Well, if that is the same statement she is talking about, I guess Pravda did call us out. I wonder who the Ruskie was who wrote that??? Oh, here it is – – – Dianna Cotter???

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/07-03-2012/120708-arizona_sheriff_obama-3/

Yes, that is right!!! Cotter called out the U.S. Press, and then makes a  provocative change to where it reads like Pravda called out the U.S. Press.   You know, the sad thing is that as sloppy as her journalism is, you really don’t know whether this was intentional or just more of the shoddiness we have come to expect from her.

But I wonder if her technique will work for me??? Yoohoo! Dianna Cotter!!! The American press is calling you out!!!

No. That just doesn’t feel right. Never mind.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1: The Image. This is a 1905 photograph of Whirling Dervishes from the book,  East and War, which I found at Wiki, here:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:V.M._Doroshevich-East_and_War-Whirling_Dervishes.png

Note 2. Whirling Dervishes. Wiki says:

Sufi whirling (or Sufi spinning), (Arabic: الرقص الصوفي‎) is a form of Sama or physically active meditation which originated among Sufis, and which is still practiced by the Sufi Dervishes of the Mevlevi order. It is a customary dance performed within the Sema, or worship ceremony, through which dervishes (also called semazens) aim to reach the source of all perfection, or kemal. This is sought through abandoning one’s nafs, egos or personal desires, by listening to the music, focusing on God, and spinning one’s body in repetitive circles, which has been seen as a symbolic imitation of planets in the Solar System orbiting the sun.[

But, The Urban Dictionary says:

1. Whirling Dervish

(n.) A person whose behavior resembles a rapid, spinning object. These actions are often spastic fidgeting and incessant babbling. The actions of the whirling dervish are irritating and annoying, often exhausting other people in the immediate vicinity.

Note 3. Video. Since travel to the Mid East is not big on most people’s list of things to do, here is a youtube video of a Whirling Dervish dance. This is a short one, because after a while it can get kind of tedious:

Note 4. American Whirling Dervish Bonus.  Dervishes were very popular in America, and I think Joseph Farah (???), of World Net Daily, makes a cameo appearance in this one:


“The Dianna” Is Back In The SSR!!! (Or, Shpekin of The Postman)

"The Dianna" Teaches The Russians The "Puppet Postman Polka"

Well, Dianna Cotter aka The Dianna aka Freeper Danae, is back in the SSR. In two ways, First, she returns to Pravda chief paper of Russia (an SSR), and second, she is promoting the whole  Obama fake Selective Service Registration (another SSR) story from Sheriff Joe’s Cold Case Posse.

Trying to give Pravda it’s ruple’s worth, she throws in the alleged American media blackout story, the Allen Hulton Postman story, the Obama was adopted in Indonesia story, the Obama Administration is threatening everybody with FTC prosecution story, the Obama was a foreign student story, and some assorted smears about Obama associating with Bill Ayers and Jeremiah Wright.

There’s so many made-up stories, the piece should have been called Cotter’s Collected Short Stories. Here is a link to her fictional presentation:

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/29-03-2012/120917-barack_obama_foreign_student-0/

Here are a few of her assorted tales:

[The Postman’s Tale] Retired United States Postal Worker Allen Hulton recently signed a sworn affidavit for the Maricopa County, Arizona Cold Case Posse convened by Sheriff Joe Arpaio, attesting under oath, to conversations with Mary Ayers, the mother of Bill Ayers. He made his testimony public in a three hour long taped interview on March 19th, 2012. Mr. Hulton, by signing an affidavit has subjected himself to laws regarding perjury, not something to be taken lightly as telling the truth is now for him a requirement of law.

[The Indonesian’s Tale] The child Barack Obama became an Indonesian Citizen when he was adopted by his stepfather Lolo Soetoro and the family’s subsequent relocation to Indonesia. Young Barack by law needed Indonesian Citizenship in order to attend school, and his adoption provided this. Indeed, in young Barack’s situation adoption was necessary to gain it.

[The Godfather’s Tale]During our investigation, we actually were told [that media] had been threatened with FTC investigations. Commentators [had been] threatened with their jobs.” Lead Investigator Zullo told Bob Unruh of Word Net Daily on March 7th. These are the auspices of the federal government with the resources of a powerful nation backing them. The justifications for using such power are almost unlimited as Red State pointed out in August of 2011.

We also get another dose of phony British citizenship law, and at the end, we get this little teaser:

[The Godfather 2 Tale] Part two of this column will report on 9 State Attorneys General who have taken the unprecedented step of listing the continuing crimes of the Obama Administration with the clear intent to prosecute, which has also received little media attention.

I will spend some time re-debunking this crap over the next few weeks. Because most of it has already been debunked by myself and others before. But it is new to the Ruskies. There is one little item that needs immediate attention, though. She mentions RedState, and links to an FTC article there.  RedState is a Tea Party website run by Erick Erickson. To be honest, she should have linked to this one instead:

[T]he moment a birfer opens his mouth and spouts his stupidity from the stage of a tea party rally it becomes headline news on every news network. Complain all you like that that’s not fair, but it’s the world we live in.

We must be vigilant. We must be willing to draw a line in the sand and stand against fatuous nonsense that opens up the right to attacks by a left-leaning media intent on embarrassing the good people who have developed through the tea party movement a renewed sense of civic involvement.

Birfers and Truthers have no place among us. And they are most decidedly not welcome at RedState.

Now, if we can get the formerly RedCountry to do the same. . .

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is from The Government Inspector, a play which has identity issues at its core. Wiki says:

The Government Inspector, also known as The Inspector General (Russian: Ревизор or Revizor, Der Revisor in German, or Rewizor in Polish), is a satirical play by the Ukrainian-born Russian dramatist and novelist Nikolai Gogol. Based upon an anecdote allegedly recounted to Gogol by Pushkin,the play is a comedy of errors, satirizing human greed, stupidity, and the extensive political corruption of Imperial Russia.

The corrupt officials of a small Russian town, headed by the Mayor, react with terror to the news that an incognito inspector (the revizor) will soon be arriving in their town to investigate them. The flurry of activity to cover up their considerable misdeeds is interrupted by the report that a suspicious person has arrived two weeks previously from Saint Petersburg and is staying at the inn. That person, however, is not an inspector; it is Khlestakov, a foppish civil servant with a wild imagination.

In 1926, the expressionistic production of the comedy by Vsevolod Meyerhold “returned to this play its true surrealistic, dreamlike essence after a century of simplistically reducing it to mere photographic realism”. Erast Garin interpreted Khlestakov as “an infernal, mysterious personage capable of constantly changing his appearance”. Leonid Grossman recalls that Garin’s Khlestakov was “a character from Hoffmann’s tale, slender, clad in black with a stiff mannered gait, strange spectacles, a sinister old-fashioned tall hat, a rug and a cane, apparently tormented by some private vision”.

Meyerhold wrote about the play: “What is most amazing about The Government Inspector is that although it contains all the elements of… plays written before it, although it was constructed according to various established dramatic premises, there can be no doubt — at least for me — that far from being the culmination of a tradition, it is the start of a new one. Although Gogol employs a number of familiar devices in the play, we suddenly realize that his treatment of them is new… The question arises of the nature of Gogol’s comedy, which I would venture to describe as not so much ‘comedy of the absurd’ but rather as ‘comedy of the absurd situation.'”

In the finale of Meyerhold’s production, the actors were replaced with dolls, a device that Andrei Bely compared to the stroke “of the double Cretan ax that chops off heads,” but a stroke entirely justified in this case since “the archaic, coarse grotesque is more subtle than subtle.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Government_Inspector

One of the characters in the play is Postmaster Shpekin, which explains the word-play on “Speakin’ of the Postman.”


The Precedent For The Prescient President (Or, Meeting The Jung Obama)

I Met Him In Chattanooga, And He Said He Was From Kenya, Or Maybe Indonesia. . . But I'm Sure It Was Him!

This Internet Article could easily  be expanded to take up an entire book or two, but I will try to keep it short and readable. Before Postman Allen Hulton, there was another story where someone supposedly met the Young Obama, who said he was from Indonesia, and born in Kenya, and would be President one day.  That person was the Freeper Race Bannon.  Here are excerpts from his 2009 tale:

I believe with all sincerity and truthfulness. I am making nothing up here, except maybe a few words to keep a written dialog in readable form, but I believe I met Barak Obama in Hawaii in 1980 in Honolulu .

What strikes me most is what he said as to where he grew up: Indonesia . He told me he wanted to be President of the US someday. I remember lightly smiling and commenting that maybe by the time he gets to be 40 or so, America will be ready for a Black man to be President and I wished him luck. We spoke of the racial tensions I saw at home while growing up and I asked him if he ever saw that overseas or since he returned back to Hawaii . I don’t remember his answer, but we spoke more of his time overseas and his thoughts on life and philosophy of government. He made some strange comments to me, it was obvious he never set foot for any time on continental United States and I told him he better realize that he is making judgments about the United States when he himself never actually lived there. I told him, “ Hawaii aint the United States !”

He also told me something that I never forgot, for it caused me to do some other things in an effort to be nice to him and possibly a favor. We spoke of where I had been and the world as I saw it. I told him I had been to Africa , Mombassa specifically, and he said to me abruptly, “I was born there”. I told him he is not eligible to be president if that was true, but I remembered he said his mom was an American, so, maybe it was okay. But it was what I did after that makes this a true memory: I went back to the barracks and told others of this guy and suggested we all grab our photo albums and visit him again and show him pictures of Mombassa so he could see where he was from.

While I cannot swear it was Barak Obama, all the details I do remember of that chance encounter fit the profile of the man who some people claim is born in Kenya and others claim he was born in Hawaii . The man I met was about 18, thin, Mulatto, told me he was born in Mombassa, raised overseas, was living in Hawaii and hadn’t yet been to many places in the world outside of those places, mostly, hadn’t been to the mainland of America for any long time period if at all. And he openly told me he wanted to be President.

You can read the full story with all the embellishments here:

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2009/11/first-hand-witness-to-obama-admitting.html

Luckily, Mr. Bannon made a few boo-boos writing his story, and Blogger Barackrypal picked up on them, and busted him out:

http://barackryphal.blogspot.com/2011/08/jim-racebannon-bancroft-birtherisms.html

The stories have these things in common, like:

1. Indonesia;
2. Kenya;
3. The inability to remember the person’s strange sounding name;
4. The post de facto realization that it was Barack Obama;
5. The innocuous, casual nature of the encounter;
6. The ambiguous time frame of the meeting; and
7. The stranger’s intention to be President one day.

But, it is the last one that get’s my attention. Notice the similarities to the Postman Story in the “I will be President” element:

Hulton remembers asking the young man what his plans were for the future.

“He looked right at me and told me he was going to be president of the United States,” Hulton says.

“There was a little bit of a grin on his face when he said it – he sounded sure of himself, but not arrogant. I know how people will say things because they have an ambition, but it did not come across that way,” Hulton says. “It came across as if this young black male was telling me he was going to be president, almost as if it were the statement of a scientific fact that had already been determined, as if his being president had been already pre-arranged.”

Hulton says the claim made him speechless.

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/postman-ayers-family-put-foreigner-obama-through-school/

I have not read any of Obama’s books or biographies, but a quick scan of the Intertubz has not revealed that he had any such thoughts at an early age. Assuming that this element is a totally invented one, the question arises, “Why???”

To be a run-of-the-mill King Incognito or Angel Unaware type folk tale, or even a flat-out lie, Obama does not need to be anything other than the future President. This common, but unnecessary, element of both stories seems to be some sort of subconscious elevation of Obama to divine status, where he has some astral plane knowledge of his destiny. This would fit in quite well with Obama being called “The One” or “The Annointed One” by many conservative pundits.

I wonder if some of Obama’s opponents have bought into their own hyperbole, to the point where “Barack The Magic Negro“, as Rush Limbaugh has called him, has truly become magic to them on some subconcious level??? I expect more of these type of “I Met The Young Obama”  stories to arise, much like the flying saucer stories arose a few decades before.  About which Carl Jung said:

In the threatening situation of the world today, when people are beginning to see that everything is at stake, the projection-creating fantasy soars beyond the realm of earthly organizations and powers into the heavens, into interstellar space, where the rulers of human fate, the gods, once had their abode in the planets…. Even people who would never have thought that a religious problem could be a serious matter that concerned them personally are beginning to ask themselves fundamental questions. Under these circumstances it would not be at all surprising if those sections of the community who ask themselves nothing were visited by `visions,’ by a widespread myth seriously believed in by some and rejected as absurd by others.–C. G. Jung, in Flying Saucers

Could this also relate to the numerous irrational Birther beliefs that are so evident to those of us who follow this issue?  Consider this discussion of the flying saucer phenomenon, from ALIENS AND ARCHETYPES with TERENCE McKENNA:

MISHLOVE: Well, that suggests to me that if we look at some of the most bizarre, most anomalous cases that we have, such as UFOs, we begin to ask ourselves not so much what are they, because that’s a mystery, but what is their function? How are they affecting us? That’s like holding up a mirror to ourselves, and it tells us a great deal about the basic mystery of our mind and our reality.

McKENNA: Yes, this is the so-called postmodern approach — to ask the question, not what is the UFO, but what is it doing to us? Jacques Vallee pioneered this approach. And the answer is fascinating. What the UFOs are doing to us, to global society, is they are eroding faith in science by casting directly in the path of science a kind of gauntlet, a challenge: “Crack this” — almost as if the cosmic giggle had shown up at the bachelor party of science to spoil the bash, in the same way that the resurrection of Christ posed a tremendous problem for the intellectuals of late Roman antiquity, because they had no place in their world view for someone rising from the dead. They were Greek materialists, atomists essentially.

In that same way, the UFO challenges the assumptions of science, and I think in that sense Jung was really onto something when he saw it as coming from the unconscious. It is like an object coming from the unconscious with a compensatory function — to turn us away from the rational and toward the intuitive; to turn us away from the paternalistic, Apollonian, solar, masculine view of things, and toward a kind of watery, lunar, mysterious, intuitively felt feminine force — almost as though the UFO is a manifestation of Gaia as mother goddess. Science, as the proudest — pardon the word — erection of the rational mind, then is challenged by something from an entirely other dimension, an entirely other realm, that concretizes for us the culture crisis. And that’s why I’ve gotten into UFOs; I think they are important for a resolution of the culture crisis. They concretize the struggle between the paternalistic-masculine and the lunar-feminine, between a dominator society and the kind of partnership society that we require to survive.

http://www.intuition.org/txt/mckenna.htm

You can’t really consider these I Met The Young Obama stories to be Urban Legends because we are getting them first hand. They are not coming from the un-named second-cousin of a friend of the writer.  Neither are these Folk Tales strictly speaking, because once again, we get them from named sources.  However, they may morph into such with subsequent re-tellings.  For now, that leaves them to be either  flat out lies, or subconscious expressions from somewhere deep in the psyche. Or, a combination of both.

When I consider some of the debates I have had with intensely irrational Birthers wherein well-settled legal certainties are trumped by their gnostic-like knowledge, the subconscious approach may be worth pursuing.  Some Birthers do seem to have convinced themselves that they are right.  Sooo, I will try to keep my subconscious mind open. Can a person do that???

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

UPDATE!!! After publishing this, I discovered that Loren of The Fogbow had already published an Internet Article that had two more instances related to a variant of the Prescient President, I think should be called the Annointed President  These fit more into the Urban Legend mode, since they are third-hand re-tellings at least:

Tom Fife: “Well, I think you are going to be surprised when you get a black president very soon…You don’t believe me, but he is real and I even know his name. His name is Barack. His mother is white and American and his father is black from Africa. That’s right, a chocolate baby! And he’s going to be your President.”

Tim Dowling’s Friend: A friend whose identity I have forgotten pointed to a teenaged, thin fellow who certainly was Barack Obama and asked me: “Do you know that he is being groomed for the Presidency?”

Here is the link to the whole thing, which I found at Obama Conspiracy Theories:

http://www.thefogbow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=7215&hilit=mailman&start=1075#p356806

Note 1. The Image. This is Shoe Shine Boy by Derrick Woodford, (American, b.1957), oil on canvas, 30″ x 24″. It may seen here, and is apparently still for sale:

http://www.antiquehelper.com/item/350584


Corsi Goes Postal With Hearsay Evidence!!!

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Well,  Jerome Corsi, or simply “Jerry“, as he is known to Sheriff Joe Arpaio and The Cold Case Posse  has done gone and found some more rock-solid evidence that Obama, or some other foreign student with a strange sounding name, was born in either Kenya, or maybe Indonesia, was helped out by the socialist Ayers family, and that the young black man said he was going to be President one day.

Corsi’s source this time, is 69 year old, retired Chicago postman, Allen Hulton. Here is an excerpt from the story:

Sometimes Mary [Ayers] would be out when I delivered the mail, and we would exchange a few words on occasion,” he says, recalling that she liked to talk about her family. “One day, Mary came to the door when I came up to the house with the mail,” he remembers. “After a greeting, she started enthusiastically talking to me about this young black student they were helping out, and she referred to him as a foreign student.”

Hulton assumed that by “helping” the student, Mary Ayers meant she and her husband were financially supporting the black foreign-exchange student with his education. He says that Mary Ayers told him the student’s name, but that it was a “strange name” that he could not remember, even though at the time it sounded African to him.“I was taken aback by how enthusiastic she was about him,” Hulton says. “And I believe she said he was from either Kenya or Indonesia, and I favor Indonesia in my recollection.”)

Hulton remembers asking the young man what his plans were for the future. “He looked right at me and told me he was going to be president of the United States,” Hulton says.

“There was a little bit of a grin on his face when he said it – he sounded sure of himself, but not arrogant. I know how people will say things because they have an ambition, but it did not come across that way,” Hulton says. “It came across as if this young black male was telling me he was going to be president, almost as if it were the statement of a scientific fact that had already been determined, as if his being president had been already pre-arranged.”

During the 2008 presidential campaign, Hulton observed several news reports detailing the relationship between Obama and Bill Ayers, and he recalled the encounter with the young man in front of Tom and Mary Ayers’ home.“The facial and physical characteristics, as well as candidate Obama’s voice, matched that of the young black male I met in front of the Ayers’ home,” Hulton says in the affidavit he signed Nov. 12, 2011, for Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse investigation.

“I am positive that the black male I spoke with in front of the Ayers’ house that day was indeed a young Barack Obama.”

The rest of this fascinating story, including all the Ayers’ Family background, and a video excerpt of an interview between Jerry Corsi and Hulton can be found here:

http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/postman-ayers-family-put-foreigner-obama-through-school/?cat_orig=us

This is the kind of thing, a sworn affidavit,  that technically might meet the definition of evidence, but has little  in the way of what the lawyers call probative value.  Assuming it was even admissible. West’s Encyclopedia of American Law (2008) defines probative  as:

Evidence has probative value if it tends to prove an issue. However, probative value may refer to whether the evidence is admissible. Rules of evidence generally state that relevant evidence, which tends to prove or disprove an alleged fact, may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, or misleading the jury, or by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence. A trial court must use a Balancing test to make this determination, but rules of evidence generally require that relevant evidence with probative value be excluded only if it is substantially outweighed by one of the dangers described in the rule.

West’s Encyclopedia of American Law, edition 2. Copyright 2008 The Gale Group, Inc. All rights reserved.

But, because all the really fun information came to Hulton via Mary Ayers, who died in 2000, this is hearsay evidence. Hulton is not able to testify of his own knowledge whether or not the person truly was a foreign student, or where he was from, because all this information came from the deceased Mary Ayers.  Hulton can’t provide probative evidence of the name of the person he met, where the person was from, or whether he was a foreign student or not.

What can Hulton testify to of either his own knowledge, or from statements made by the young black man he met ??? Here it is:

My name is Allen Hulton and sometime in the late 1980s or early 1990’s I met a young Black man in Chicago who I think was Barack Obama, and he told me that he was going to be President one day.

WOW!!! What a tremendous piece of probative evidence that Jerome Corsi, Ph.D has uncovered!!!

Sadly, this is about par for World Net Daily, Jerome “Jerry” Corsi, Sheriff Joe Arpaio, and The Cold Case Posse. And they all wonder why their silly little investigations get ignored by the major media.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter