NOTE: I originally published this article in June 2013, but since Ted Cruz announced his Presidency, I presume the Neo-Two Citizen Parent Birthers and some of the old crowd, too will be at it again. Sooo, I decided to dust it off and republish it. It provides my analysis of how a future Birther lawsuit challenging Ted Cruz will work out. So, without further ado:
Well, I have been working my tail off on this one! I got to asking myself what would happen if Sen. Ted Cruz, or some other person who was born outside the country, ran for the presidency. Surely if the parents weren’t both American citizens, the whole silly two citizen parents stuff would rear its goofy head again.
But exactly how would the Birthers frame the argument? And how would the Defendants respond? Reading the law review articles would help with spotting the issues, but there is nothing like getting your hands dirty to get a good handle on things. The standard responses to date would not apply across the board in this case. For example, the Wong Kim Ark decision was based on a person who was born inside the United States. This was Obama’s situation, also.
Sooo, I pretended it was the year 2020, and Sen. Ted Cruz was running for office. Cruz was born in Canada and became a citizen of the United States at birth. It is easy to imagine a Birther(s) signing up to run for President, as some did this last year, in an effort to pass the standing hurdle. It is also reasonable that an Emergency Petition for Injunctive Relief would be filed in an attempt to remove Cruz from the ballot. As a method to present the scenario, I chose to write a decision as a United States District Judge denying this Injunctive Relief to the Birther. This method would present the main points of both sides, and a possible result.
For purposes of illustration, I chose Mario Apuzzo, Esq. as the Imaginary Birther, representing himself pro se. This is because he is sooo predictable, and sooo old hat. The old hat idiom means, “seen or done many times and no longer interesting. Trite. Stale. Predictable.” There is another meaning for those who have vulgar tongues, but I will skip that because this is mostly a G rated place.
Below is a pdf of my decision. I left out some of the things you normally find in a decision such as the procedural stuff. This was done to keep it shorter and simpler to read. I hope from the decision the reader can get a feel for how the Birther argument would be structured, and how a Defendant would respond.
This is strictly my opinion, and there are certainly other legal strategies that could be utilized by the Birthers or Defendants. I invite my readers, Obot, Anti-Birther, and Birther to submit their own thoughts via email attachment. I will be glad to update this article with their work along with proper attribution.
While this may not seem like the height of fun, it has to be better than a surprise visit from the Secret Service such as experienced by the readers of other websites. Enjoy!
UPDATE 1: June 26, 2013.,
Well, that was quick. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. burned the Midnight Oil and made a Motion for Reconsideration. Here is the link to his website. Go to comments #168-#170:
http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7466841558189356289&postID=4091601506130883249
And here is the pdf:
Apuzzo Motion For Reconsideration
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
March 24th, 2015 at 11:25 pm
Squeeky,
There’s one thing you didn’t consider: there is a non-frivolous argument that Rafael Cruz is not, in fact, eligible (unlike President Obama who’s eligibility is a slam-dunk). Because of this, a competent attorney might be willing to take this case. A lawyer on the Fogbow claimed that he could get the matter litigated and get Rafael declared ineligible for $250K—I don’t think it is beyond reason to think that a potential Republican birther candidate *cough*trump*cough* might be willing to spend that kind of money and able to find a similarly talented attorney who at least had a chance of success. Something which we all know is and ever will be a complete stranger to the great bloviator.
March 25th, 2015 at 1:32 pm
Hi Slartibart!
Yes, Cruz is a different kind of duck. I would not be all surprised to see Apuzzo tackle him.
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
March 25th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
Apuzzo may take on the Cruz eligibility issue but it would be a waste of time because no suitable plaintiff would ever hire him. The case would fail on standing.
I would like to see a proper case brought by a real candidate. Hell, even a fake candidate like Trump would be fun. I would like to see someone take up Stergard’s $250,000 offer to challenge Rafael though. I would even bring the radio show back for that one. 😉
September 18th, 2017 at 11:32 am
How’s it that a fake candidate is now President? Any doubts about Obama’s birth are his own fault and Hillary started the whole mess anyways.
May 12th, 2019 at 11:12 am
Nathan
With even a minuscule amount of research you could discover that Hillary Clinton was a never a Birther and neither HRC nor her supporters started the Birther movement.
March 25th, 2015 at 8:36 am
Welcome back Squeeky, even if the article is a rerun, cough cough. I too come down on the side that Cruz, although a complete idiot, is eligible. However, I think that any discussion about his eligibility needs to address the Rogers v Bellei case from 1974 where the parent residency requirement in the law was unsuccessfully challenged. If you argue that foreign born children of one or two US citizens is a NBC then you have to accept that at least in the case of the foreign born kind Congress can determine who are in that class. I personally have no problem with that conclusion but I suspect some might.
March 25th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
Hi RC!
I will look up the Rogers v. Bellei case again. I am waiting to see if Cruz reignites the two citizen parents idiots. I think my year+ absence from Birthers has helped me kick the habit. I actually have had an article on that in “edit” function for about 3 or 4 months. I will also try to finish it.
Thank you for missing me!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
March 28th, 2015 at 12:10 am
Hiya.
March 28th, 2015 at 12:09 am
Actually, it wasn’t the parent residency requirement that was challenged; it was the retention requirement. From Sec. 301 of the INA:
“(b) Any person who is a national and citizen of the United States at birth under paragraph (7) of subsection (a), shall lose his nationality and citizenship unless he shall come to the United States prior to attaining the age of twenty-three years and shall immediately following any such coming be continuously physically present in the United State(s) for at least five years: Provided, That such physical presence follows the attainment of the age of fourteen years and precedes the age of twenty-eight years.”
Now Bellei acquired citizenship at birth under the previous statute, Sec. 201(g) of the Nationality Act of 1940; but the statute specified that subsection (b) would apply to persons born abroad subsequent to May 24, 1934.
March 25th, 2015 at 3:19 pm
Squeeky,
If Mario takes up the case (I doubt he will as I think it is all about delegitimizing President Obama to him) then it would probably unfold more or less like you predicted.
May 28th, 2015 at 11:01 pm
Have you gone into hiding again Squeeky?
May 29th, 2015 at 12:14 am
Squeeky is a regular at Jonathan Turley’s Res Ipsa Loquitur blog. It is a popular hang-out for people of Squeeky’s ideological ilk.
June 29th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
Hi Slarti!
Yes, I am the token “vile, racist, homophobe” at that site. LOL!
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
June 30th, 2015 at 12:10 am
Squeeky,
Whatever you may be over there, it’s hardly a token as the majority shares your ideological bent.
June 29th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
Hi RC!!!
No, I am trying to do more political stuff, because I figure I have pretty well kicked the Birthers to pieces. They aren’t up to anything new are they???
I do have a post I am working on for here, called, “I Was A Birther Addict”, and I will probably finish it this week.
How is everybody in the Obot world doing??? Are they all OK???
Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter
July 2nd, 2015 at 5:57 pm
We are still winning – despite Mario doing his daily victory dance. If you haven’t checked out the 7000 comment slug-fest at Greg Conterio’s article about Ted Cruz at Western Free Press it is worth a quick look. http://www.westernfreepress.com/2015/03/05/ted-cruz-and-natural-born-citizenship-a-belated-reply-to-mario-apuzzo/
Conterio dumped the gasoline, lit the match and then ran away never to be heard from again. Of course the comments quickly degenerated to an off topic discussion of whether Obama is eligible.
The stuff Mario makes up out of thin air (a polite way of saying he pulls it from his ass) continues to be amazing. You know about his made up American Common Law of course.
One and only one good thing out of all this is that I have read all the pertinent cases like Wong Kim Ark several times and I have absolutely no doubts Mario and the two citizen parent Birthers are as full of crap as a Christmas turkey.
March 11th, 2016 at 10:51 pm
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March 21st, 2016 at 4:10 pm
Dear Squeeky.
Have you been posting on this site?:
https://jonathanturley.org/2016/03/19/where-have-all-the-birthers-gone-cruz-is-running/
And, if so, did you post this?
1, March 21, 2016 at 1:57 pm
@PaulCS
Here are the other two Obama school papers:
(If so, it’s not the Squeeky Fromme that I remember. If NOT, someone is trying to steal your identity.)
Sincerely
Smrstrauss
March 21st, 2016 at 4:30 pm
Dear Squeeky.
Did you post this at jonathanturley’s site?
” 1, March 21, 2016 at 4:55 pm
@smrstrauss
Sometimes I have to just report and let you, the reader, decide.
“FWIW, yes I went to Washington D.C., and President Obama wouldn’t even speak to me! His “gate keepers” were quite rude, and asked if I was daft? They told me that Obama has never released any of his school papers, including ones from Kindergarten and Elementary school. And, that Obama had a firm policy of neither confirming, nor denying documents purporting to represent his school work. Sooo, I spent the rest of the day drinking Long Island Ice Teas in a hotel bar. I may have had an incidental sexual encounter with a bald, pudgy guy who said he was an ex-Navy SEAL who now works for Black Water Security. Frankly, I just don’t remember. I was too sloshed.
Then, I went to Hawaii, to see if I could confirm that these three works were really President Obama’s first grade papers. After much searching, I met a woman, let’s call her Jane Doe, who said that she was a class mate of Obama’s, but that she does not remember specific coloring exercises from circa 1968, and asked if I was daft. She did off that Obama was a notoriously bad speller, and was probably terrified of both hungry lions and venomous snakes. Sooo, I spent the rest of the day drinking Long Island Ice Teas in a hotel bar. I may have had an incidental sexual encounter with another bald, pudgy guy who said he was an ex-Navy SEAL who now works for Black Water Security. Frankly, I just don’t remember. I was too sloshed.
If not, someone has been using your identity. If so, that’s not the old Squeeky Fromme whom I remember.
Sincerely
Smrstrauss.
March 23rd, 2016 at 11:58 am
Squeeky. Did you really write and post this?
“Sometimes I have to just report and let you, the reader, decide.
FWIW, yes I went to Washington D.C., and President Obama wouldn’t even speak to me! His “gate keepers” were quite rude, and asked if I was daft? They told me that Obama has never released any of his school papers, including ones from Kindergarten and Elementary school. And, that Obama had a firm policy of neither confirming, nor denying documents purporting to represent his school work. Sooo, I spent the rest of the day drinking Long Island Ice Teas in a hotel bar. I may have had an incidental sexual encounter with a bald, pudgy guy who said he was an ex-Navy SEAL who now works for Black Water Security. Frankly, I just don’t remember. I was too sloshed.
Then, I went to Hawaii, to see if I could confirm that these three works were really President Obama’s first grade papers. After much searching, I met a woman, let’s call her Jane Doe, who said that she was a class mate of Obama’s, but that she does not remember specific coloring exercises from circa 1968, and asked if I was daft. She did off that Obama was a notoriously bad speller, and was probably terrified of both hungry lions and venomous snakes. Sooo, I spent the rest of the day drinking Long Island Ice Teas in a hotel bar. I may have had an incidental sexual encounter with another bald, pudgy guy who said he was an ex-Navy SEAL who now works for Black Water Security. Frankly, I just don’t remember. I was too sloshed.”
If so, you are not the Squeeky Fromm that I remember. If not, someone is using your identity, and you should take action.
August 4th, 2016 at 6:01 pm
I updated Mario’s wonderful record for posterity a while back:
https://rcradioblog.wordpress.com/2016/07/19/birther-attorney-mario-apuzzo-continues-to-rack-up-the-losses/
Mario just keeps on winning!
January 25th, 2022 at 12:24 pm
I was wondering if Squeeky was aware that Mario Apuzzo passed away from COVID-19 last October. I heard a rumor that Mario had “I win” engraved on his headstone but I cannot confirm it. 😆 I think Mario had a crush on Squeeky.
April 30th, 2022 at 12:50 am
It’s rumored on the Grapevine that RC (aka Race Card) has a crush on Dr. Rachel Levine, Ol Creepy Joe Biden”s assistant Secretary of Health.
May 26th, 2022 at 3:54 pm
Yo, RC! This should be of special interest to you & your fellow traveling Obots: CDC officials sound alarm for gay and bisexual men as monkeypox spreads in community.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/23/cdc-officials-sound-alarm-for-gay-and-bisexual-men-as-monkeypox-spreads-in-community-.html