With 2020 Foresight! The Ted Cruz Birther Lawsuit

Hmmm, I see Mario Apuzzo, An Old Hat, And A Huge Stack Of . . . Bird Cage Liners???

NOTE: I originally published this article in June 2013, but since Ted Cruz announced his Presidency, I presume the Neo-Two Citizen Parent Birthers and some of the old crowd, too will be at it again. Sooo, I decided to dust it off and republish it. It provides my analysis of how a future Birther lawsuit challenging Ted Cruz will work out. So, without further ado:

Well, I have been working my tail off on this one! I got to asking myself what would happen if Sen. Ted Cruz, or some other person who was born outside the country, ran for the presidency. Surely if the parents weren’t both American citizens, the whole silly two citizen parents stuff would rear its goofy head again.

But exactly how would the Birthers frame the argument? And how would the Defendants respond? Reading the law review articles would help with spotting the issues, but there is nothing like getting your hands dirty to get a good handle on things. The standard responses to date would not apply across the board in this case. For example, the Wong Kim Ark decision was based on a person who was born inside the United States. This was Obama’s situation, also.

Sooo, I pretended it was the year 2020, and Sen. Ted Cruz was running for office. Cruz was born in Canada and became a citizen of the United States at birth. It is easy to imagine a Birther(s) signing up to run for President, as some did this last year, in an effort to pass the standing hurdle. It is also reasonable that an Emergency Petition for Injunctive Relief would be filed in an attempt to remove Cruz from the ballot. As a method to present the scenario, I chose to write a decision as a United States District Judge denying this Injunctive Relief to the Birther. This method would present the main points of both sides, and a possible result.

For purposes of illustration, I chose Mario Apuzzo, Esq. as the Imaginary Birther, representing himself pro se. This is because he is sooo predictable, and sooo old hat. The old hat idiom means, “seen or done many times and no longer interesting. Trite. Stale. Predictable.” There is another meaning for those who have vulgar tongues, but I will skip that because this is mostly a G rated place.

Below is a pdf of my decision. I left out some of the things you normally find in a decision such as the procedural stuff. This was done to keep it shorter and simpler to read. I hope from the decision the reader can get a feel for how the Birther argument would be structured, and how a Defendant would respond.

This is strictly my opinion, and there are certainly other legal strategies that could be utilized by the Birthers or Defendants. I invite my readers, Obot, Anti-Birther, and Birther to submit their own thoughts via email attachment. I will be glad to update this article with their work along with proper attribution.

While this may not seem like the height of fun, it has to be better than a surprise visit from the Secret Service such as experienced by the readers of other websites. Enjoy!

Apuzzo Order

UPDATE 1: June 26, 2013.,

Well, that was quick. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. burned the Midnight Oil and made a Motion for Reconsideration. Here is the link to his website. Go to comments #168-#170:

http://www.blogger.com/comment.g?blogID=7466841558189356289&postID=4091601506130883249

And here is the pdf:

Apuzzo Motion For Reconsideration

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Birthers Is OK People! Obama Are All Null And Void!!! (IMPORTANT UPDATE!!!)

Long Live Syrian Electronic Army!!!

Birthers is OK People who are right Obama is not illegible for President Office! You Americans listen long time to very smart Orly Taitz lawyer and dentist person! Listen long time to Markio Apuzzo two he is LAWYER!!! Make Obama leave office like frog! All Tommyhawk Missiles fired will be null and void! All bombs will be null and void! Everything all null and void!

You IMPEACH him now from overpasses! You are to make plenty big signs! America listen to Birther people! Listen to Sheriff Apuzzo also and cowboy posse people with hats!

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UPDATE!!!

Holy Crap!!! Apparently The Birther Think Tank was hacked two hours ago by the Syrian Electronic Army!!! I guess ” _ _ lter_ _ _ lter” wasn’t a very good password after all. I have changed it, and my email accounts to be on the safe side! I am back in control of my website and hopefully the Syrian Electronic Army will not come back. I am going to leave this post up because I am not one to let a good crisis go to waste! If the pro-Assad Syrians think that Orly Taitz is very smart, and also Mario Apuzzo, then that is certainly worth noting! I think they meant to say Sheriff Arpaio, not Sheriff Apuzzo. And eligible instead of illegible. Other than that, their grammar and sentence structure are no worse than I see from many American Birthers. I am going to add some tags to this so that other unsuspecting Americans will be alerted.

Sooo, let this post serve as a warning to everybody to make sure your passwords are not too easy to guess, or else the Syrians may come after you, too!!!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

After Prof. Jacobson, The Birthers Need A Group Hug!!!

As Soon As He Replaced The Batteries In His Head-Cooling Propeller Beanie, Apuzzo Was Planning On Some Heavy Duty Thinking!

Well,  Cornell Law Prof. William Jacobson finally weighed in on Marco Rubio and Ted Cruz’s presidential eligibility and as expected, the Birthers are going to need a great big group hug. Because they are in some major emotional pain! Here are some excerpts from his long analysis:

The key to understanding why I reach that conclusion that Rubio, Jindal and Cruz are “natural born Citizens” requires understanding the problem.

There are strong arguments in favor of Rubio, Jindal and Cruz each being a “natural born Citizen” as that term most reasonably can be understood through its plain text because they became citizens by birth.  Their “natural born Citizen[ship]” also is consistent with the concepts, respectively, of citizenship by birth place (Rubio, Jindal) and parentage (Cruz), from which the term “natural born Citizen” is believed to derive historically.

and significantly, he finds there is no two citizen parents requirement:

8. There Is No Requirement That Both Parents Be Citizens

One common phrasing of objections to Rubio, Jindal and Cruz being deemed “natural born Citizens” is that, regardless of where they were born, both parents would have had to be citizens.

That argument is devoid of almost any support.  The text does not say so.  There is no demonstrable evidence that is what the Framer’s intended, or that’s how the term was commonly understood at the time of drafting.  Such a requirement also is not found in the almost contemporaneous, or even in British law which (as described in the section above) was confused and changed over time, but typically followed the father’s lineage for children born abroad.  See also discussion of Supreme Court cases below.

and, in his conclusion at 14:

A reasonable reading of the plain text of the Constitution supports Rubio, Jindal and Cruz being “natural born Citizen[s]” because they were citizens by birth.  There is no clear, demonstrable intent otherwise from the Framers or clear, commonly understood use of the term to the contrary at the time of drafting the Constitution.  The British term “natural born Subject” as well as concepts of “natural law” were not clearly relied upon by the Framers, and are in themselves not clearly contradictory to this plain reading of the text.

The burden should be on those challenging otherwise eligible candidates to demonstrate through clear and convincing historical evidence and legal argument why such persons should be disqualified.  That has not happened so far, and if two hundred years of scholarship is any indication, it never will happen.

The ultimate arbiter on the issue likely is to be voters, not Supreme Court Justices.

It is for these reasons that I believe Marco Rubio, Bobby Jindal and Ted Cruz are eligible to be President.

Here is the link to his findings:

http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/09/natural-born-citizens-marco-rubio-bobby-jindal-ted-cruz/

One thing I disagree with Jacobson about is his treatment of the Wong Kim Ark case. I do not think he read the case enough to realize that the Court made separate findings throughout the seven part decision which takes its statements on natural born citizenship out of the “dicta” category. I will do a separate article on that. However, he did dispose of the Emer de Vattel nonsense. He also speared Leo Donofrio a few times.

It’s a good read!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is from, The Ghost Busters TV show, about which Wiki says:

The Ghost Busters was a live-action children’s television series that ran in 1975, about a team of bumbling detectives who would investigate ghostly occurrences. Only 15 episodes were created.

This series reunited Forrest Tucker and Larry Storch in roles similar to their characters in F Troop. Tucker played Jake Kong (his first name is never actually given in this series), and Storch played zoot suit-wearing Eddie Spencer. The third member of the trio was Tracy the Gorilla, played by actor Bob Burns (credited as Tracy’s “trainer”).

The series was unrelated to the 1984 film Ghostbusters (though Columbia Pictures did pay Filmation for a license to use the name).

Each episode would always begin with Spencer and Tracy stopping at a convenience store to pick up the tape recording (recorded by co-executive producer Lou Scheimer) that explained their mission for the episode, in a parody of Mission: Impossible. It would be hidden inside a common object such as a bicycle, typewriter or painting. The message would always end by saying, “This message will self destruct in five seconds.” It would then explode in Tracy’s face for comic effect. Their investigation would take them to the same “old castle” on the outskirts of the city, and after a series of chases and pratfalls the Ghost Busters would corner the ghost (and his/her “sidekick”), which they would dispatch back to the afterlife with their Ghost Dematerializer.

When First You Practice To Deceive!!!

The Great Freeper Birther Purge of 2013 is still going on over at Free Republic. The forum owner, Jim Robinson has decreed that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen and eligible for the presidency.  He has put up another post, his second so far, about the issue. This latest one, cited to the Dallas Morning News, adds no new scholarship to the conversation.

Is he a natural-born citizen or isn’t he? The question has been a nagging part of Barack Obama’s life ever since his first presidential campaign. No amount of birth certificates and sworn statements from state officials in Hawaii, his birthplace, seemed capable of putting the issue to rest. The “birther” movement continues pressing the question even today, five years after Obama’s election to the presidency.

The question nags anew, but this time Texas Republican Sen. Ted Cruz is the focus because he was born in Canada to an American mother and Cuban father. By law, his mother’s U.S. citizenship automatically confers natural citizenship to Cruz, just as — for those who continue to doubt the location of Obama’s birth — the citizenship of Obama’s American mother conferred it to him.

This is such a nonissue, regardless of whether the candidate is Republican or Democrat. Nevertheless, narrow-minded individuals, including some prominent personalities such as billionaire former presidential contender Donald Trump, are doggedly trying to concoct controversy and introduce doubt where there should be none.

These men have been natural U.S. citizens from birth and have every right to seek the nation’s highest office. Article II of the Constitution sets out three eligibility requirements to be president: that the person be at least 35 years old, a resident within the United States for 14 years and a “natural-born citizen.”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3061738/posts

Robinson is making it clear that the Free Republic birthers had better not latch on to any Ted Cruz threads to spread their quackery. However,  Robinson’s position on Obama is still unclear.  He does not appear to be too well versed on the whole issue and has just decided to accept Mark Levin and Ted Cruz’s assurances. However, Robinson did make this comment, at number 103:

To: sten

Of course I believe in the constitution. Cruz was born to a qualified American mother while temporarily working in Canada. He meets all the legal requirements. Don’t know if that same standard can apply to Obama (if he was not born in the US). His mother does not qualify (according to some of the posts on these threads).

103 posted on Monday, September 02, 2013 9:14:12 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)

And, by way of update, he made this comment at 35:

To: ConorMacNessa

That’s true, but they are leftists.

And unfortunately, there are lots of folks who have too much invested emotionally in Obama’s ineligibility, that they’re afraid Cruz will destroy their case. But I don’t know. As they’re pointing out on this very thread, Ann Dunham was not old enough at Obama’s birth to satisfy the law. [if Obama was born outside the country.]

35 posted on Monday, September 02, 2013 7:16:33 PM by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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And, on a different thread, at comment #94:

Conservatives to Cruz: ‘Run, Ted, run’

Monday, September 02, 2013 12:15:45 PM 94 of 275
Jim Robinson to Col Freeper

I suspect some posters don’t know their ass from a hole in the ground when it comes to the actual law and the constitution but they have so much invested emotionally in the crackpot birther conspiracy theory that they’re caught in a trap of their own making. Gonna have to chew their own leg off to get free.

I am still waiting to see if he ever fully addresses the last five years of the Freeper Birthers dissembling about the need for Obama to have two citizen parents.  It seems too much to just sweep under the rug.  If Cruz decides to run,  the question of his citizenship is certainly going to come up. Mario Apuzzo, Esq. is certainly not going to let go of the issue. Nor will CDR Kerchner.  How much credibility is Jim Robinson and Free Republic going to have in that battle with other conservative types?

Probably none.  Walter Scott provided the reason why in his poem, Marmion:

Oh, what a tangled web we weave
When first we practice to deceive!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is from the B.C. comic strip by Johnny Hart. My father used to have a lot of his paperback books, including The Wizard of Id. I loved them! Here is the original strip before I did my thing to it:

Note 2. Marmion.  I never read the poem, but it sounds like a real drama-fest. Wiki says,

Marmion is an epic poem by Walter Scott about the Battle of Flodden Field (1513). It was published in 1808.

Scott started writing Marmion, his second major work, in November 1806. When Archibald Constable, the publisher, learnt of this, he offered a thousand guineas for the copyright unseen. William Miller and John Murray each agreed to take a 25% share in the project. Murray observed: “We both view it as honourable, profitable, and glorious to be concerned in the publication of a new poem by Walter Scott.” Scott later said that he thoroughly enjoyed writing the work. He told his son-in-law, Lockhart, “Oh, man, I had many a grand gallop among these braes when I was thinking of Marmion.”

In 1807 Scott practised manoeuvres with the Light Horse Volunteers (formed to defend an invasion from France) in order to polish his description of Flodden. Marmion was finished on January 22 and published on 22 February 1808 in a quarto first edition of two thousand copies. This edition, priced one and a half guineas, sold out in a month. It was followed by twelve octavo editions between 1808 and 1825.

The poem tells how Lord Marmion, a favourite of Henry VIII of England, lusts for Clara de Clare, a rich woman. He and his mistress, Constance De Beverley, forge a letter implicating Clara’s fiancé, Sir Ralph De Wilton, in treason. Constance, a dishonest nun, hopes that her aid will restore her to favour with Marmion. When De Wilton loses the duel he claims in order to defend his honour against Marmion, he is obliged to go into exile. Clara retires to a convent rather than risk Marmion’s attentions.

Constance’s hopes of a reconciliation with Marmion are dashed when he abandons her; she ends up being walled up alive in the Lindisfarne convent for breaking her vows. She takes her revenge by giving the Abbess who is one of her three judges documents that prove De Wilton’s innocence. De Wilton, having returned disguised as a pilgrim, follows Marmion to Edinburgh where he meets the Abbess, who gives him the exonerating documents. When Marmion’s host, the Earl of Angus is shown the documents, he arms De Wilton and accepts him as a knight again. De Wilton’s plans for revenge are overturned by the battle of Flodden Field. Marmion dies on the battlefield, while De Wilton displays heroism, regains his honour, retrieves his lands, and marries Clara.

The Great Freeper Birther Purge Of 2013 (Too Little, Too Late???)

They Were Each Sentenced To Ten Years Of Cleaning Up Steaming Piles Of Vattel

Following up on a story of a few days ago (see Note 2 below), Jim Robinson, the Eugene H. Krabs of the Free Republic Krusty Krab, is threatening to purge the place of any two-citizen parents Birthers who say mean things about either Ted Cruz or Mark Levin, Esq. Robinson has put up his own post based on the Cato Institute report which opined that Ted Cruz is a natural born citizen. There is a link below, but the actual story ran here a few days ago. What is fun is the comments! Here are a representative few:

Jim Robinson Comment# 1: As I’ve stated elsewhere on this forum many times, I have infinitely more confidence in Mark Levin and the CATO Institute than I do in legions of internet sea lawyers and bloggers.

If Ted Cruz decides to run for the Presidency and he appears to be the strongest conservative running, I will support him to the hilt. He’s one of the few conservatives in the Senate who actually has the balls to stand up for conservatism and against Obama and the GOP-e RINOs. This is a battle for the survival of America as a free nation. If we allow the democrats and the GOP-e statists to select our next opposition candidate for us, ie, Chris Christie or Jeb Bush, this nation is kaput.

We stand united or we fall. We cannot afford to destroy our best candidates or to split our conservative vote to the point that the likes of Christy or Bush gets the nod and someone like Hillary waltzes into the White House.

Supporting the “electable” Dole, McCain and Romney gave us Clinton and Obama. Supporting the crazy conservative gave us President Reagan.

and, in support of the author of the Cato Institute Piece:

Jim Robinson at Comment#  56: Looks like he’s a natural born citizen according to this author and I like his credentials as opposed to the usual internet blogger. Mark Levin likes him too. And I have much more faith in Mark Levin than your average anonymous sea lawyer/blogger.

CATO’s Ilya Shapiro: [long list of Shapiro’s qualifications omitted]

and, in response to the usual Birther “But, but, but . . . what about the Constitution?” crap, he says in six different comments:

B/S

Give us a break. No one but you is good enough for you.

Cruz is a natural born citizen. Get over it.

So those of us who support the grassroots tea party conservative and probably strongest conservative in the senate if not the entire Republican party are now considered to be moderates by birthers? Don’t look now, but I’m beginning to think the people who say birthers are nutcases aren’t that far off base. You people are imploding. Best rethink your strategy.

I’m not implying any such thing. I’m stating that if you post another slanderous attack on Mark Levin or Ted Cruz like you did earlier today, your ass is zot. If you wish to attack good conservatives, start your own damned website and have at it. You’re not going to do it here. Good luck with that. [this was to Cold Case Posse Supporter]

Either give it a rest or go somewhere else to post. I’m not interested in your slander of two great conservatives (Levin and Cruz). Drop it or begone!!

Robinson has a lot more to say, but you can read the thread yourself if you  are interested. It is still going on:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3060736/posts

In his usual subtle and understated way, Robinson also put a separate link up on the Forum, in Big Red Letters. The arrow and the box around the link are mine:

(Click on Image Once or Twice to Make It Larger.)

What I find interesting is that Robinson is only rehashing the same arguments that many people there, including me, made before we were zotted.  He does not appear to be well versed in the topic, and just bases his opinion on Levin and the Cato Institute Report. Here is what I predict is going to happen.

First, the “birth certificate” Birthers will continue posting as usual because the basis of their belief is simply suspicions about Obama’s roots, and not the Vattel stuff. Meantime, the two citizen parents Birthers will simply continue to peddle their nonsense against Obama, while laying off of Ted Cruz and Mark Levin.  I look for them to escalate their efforts to make up for the fact that they have to STFU about Cruz. Either Jim Robinson will get the fact that a Birther Mack Truck is driving through his living room, or he won’t.

Either way, the damage is already mostly done. Over the last five years, the idiots have been busy promulgating the two citizen parent crap at Free Republic, and from there little piles of the doo-doo have been spread to blogs and forums all across the Conservative blogosphere.  And from thence, thousands of poisonous mushrooms have blossomed. I wonder if Jim Robinson understands that what is wrong with the two citizen parents theory isn’t that it hurts Ted Cruz, but that it is nothing but a stupid lie, and never was anything but that.

Like Edmund Burke said, “Sin has many tools, but a lie is the handle which fits them all.”

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is a photograph from the Soviet purges under Stalin. I was not able to determine its origin.

Note 2. Previous Posts: Here is the link to the previous Free Republic story:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/jim-robinson-fires-cruz-missile-at-free-republic-birthers/

And here is the link to the Cato Institute Story:

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2013/08/28/cato-institute-busts-birthers-chops/

Note 3. For ESLs. The Image Easter Egg is a word play on seersucker, a type of cotton fabric often used in robes and sheer sucker, one who is utterly and completely fooled.

Note 4. Photographs of Free Republic Birthers. I have to admit that I LMAO every time I read this post, with its photographs of the Freeper Birthers. I know, I’m vain. Please forgive me.

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/zot-free-republic-birthers-run-in-panic-stricken-terror-from-the-truth/

Note 5.  Let A Hundred Flowers Bloom. This is the phrase behind the thousand poisonous mushrooms term I used.  It has to do with purges, or ideological cleansing. Wiki notes:

The first part of the phrase is often remembered in the West as “let a hundred flowers bloom”. It is used to refer to an orchestrated campaign to flush out dissidents by encouraging them to show themselves as critical of the regime, and then subsequently imprison them.

This view is supported by authors Clive James and Jung Chang, who posit that the campaign was, from the start, a ruse intended to expose rightists and counter-revolutionaries, and that Mao Zedong persecuted those whose views were different from the party’s.

Sharon Rondeau Appeals To The Vatican???

Sharon Rondeau Just Had A Thing For Big Lugs In Uniform (Click on Image to Activate.)

Well, once again I got a document from a secret source. This one purports to be an Open Letter from Sharon Rondeau to Pope Francis. I am not sure if it is for real or not, but following her recent missive to the Pentagon, who knows?  (see Note 2 below.) The letterhead seems genuine. Anyway, I report, you decide! Here’s the letter. Just click on it to make it larger. There is also a pdf of the letter which follows the image, which is also very easy to read.

Here is a pdf file of the letter:

Birther Letter to the Pope

Sooo, I don’t know if that was real or not. Which, it is kind of a shame when a group of people do so many silly things that you can’t tell for sure whether something is real, or just a parody.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. Once again, this is an image from the great 1954 film, Devil Girl From Mars. I really like using this film for Sharon Rondeau. You can watch the entire film at youtube:

The Image Easter Egg is based on R.U.R., one of the first stories about robots. Wiki says,

R.U.R. is a 1920 science fiction play in the Czech language by Karel Čapek. R.U.R. stands for Rossum’s Universal Robots, an English phrase used as the subtitle in the Czech original.[1] It premiered in 1921 and introduced the word “robot” to the English language and to science fiction as a whole.[2]

R.U.R. quickly became famous and was influential early in the history of its publication.[3][4][5] By 1923, it had been translated into thirty languages,[3][6]

The play begins in a factory that makes artificial people, made of synthetic organic matter, called “robots.” Unlike the modern usage of the term, these creatures are closer to the modern idea of cyborgs or even clones, as they can be mistaken for humans and can think for themselves. They seem happy to work for humans, although that changes, and a hostile robot rebellion leads to the extinction of the human race. Čapek later took a different approach to the same theme in War with the Newts, in which non-humans become a servant class in human society.

R.U.R is dark but not without hope, and was successful in its day in both Europe and the United States.[citation needed] John Clute has lauded R.U.R. as “a play of exorbitant wit and almost demonic energy” and lists the play as one of the “classic titles” of inter-war science fiction.[7]

There is a lot more at the link. Czech it out!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R.U.R.

Note 2. Sharon Rondeau’s Letter to the Pentagon. The Birther Think Tank ran a story yesterday about Ms. Rondeau contacting the  military authorities about Obama’s eligibility.

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2013/08/29/sharon-rondeau-when-the-un-informed-authorities-meet-the-uniformed-authorities/

The story is also at her website, but it is hidden behind the paywall. There is a link in my story to ORYR where you can read the whole thing:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2013/08/29/where-is-the-u-s-military-on-obamas-fake-credentials/

Sharon Rondeau: When The Un-informed Authorities Meet The Uniformed Authorities!!!

After They Explained The Meaning Of GFY! To Sharon Rondeau, She Just Stood There With A Blank Look On Her face

Sharon Rondeau, the indefatigable editor of the Post and Email, tried to involve the military in her Birther silliness and got uniformly dismissed. And not politely. Here is an excerpt from ObamaReleaseYourRecords:

The military has remained silent on the Obama eligibility/identity issue. At 7:13 a.m. EDT on Thursday, The Post & Email contacted Public Affairs Officer Lt. Col. Catherine Wilkinson for comment on the declaration of forgery regarding Obama’s documentation:

Hi Cathy, my newspaper has been following the Obama eligibility/identity question for the last four years since its inception in August 2009.

May I obtain a statement from the military about whether or not they are aware that the long-form birth certificate image posted on the White House website since April 27, 2011 has been declared a “computer-generated forgery” by a law enforcement investigation? http://www.mcsoccp.org/joomla

Is the military aware that a congressional investigation into the forgery might be launched as a result of the Cold Case Posse’s investigation? http://www.wnd.com/2013/06/obama-birth-certificate-doubts-head-to-capitol

Does the military have the ability to analyze the Obama birth certificate image and Selective Service registration form to determine if they are authentic? If so, why has that not been done?

What are the ramifications if the U.S. military has been taking orders from someone who achieved the office of president and commander-in-chief by fraud?

Thank you very much.

Sharon Rondeau, Editor
The Post & Email
http://www.thepostemail.com
P.O. Box 195
Stafford Springs, CT 06076
203-987-7948

At approximately 9:30 a.m. EDT, we received a response from Lt. Col. J. Todd Breasseale, which reads:

Dear Ms. Rondeau,
> We can only assume that your query is not a legitimate question and is some sort of nonsensical joke.
> We are happy to consider reality-based requests, but do not entertain absurdities from the web.
>
> Very respectfully,
> Todd

There is more at this link:

http://obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com/2013/08/report-us-military-responds-to-obamas.html

Ms. Rondeau pretended to be confused by this, and you can read at the link above how she sent a second indignant inquiry, and got a polite one word response, “Noted.”

But, should she really be surprised? The Cold Case Posse supposedly has proof that Obama’s online image of his long form birth certificate is a forgery. Yet, no prosecutor has touched it. Gee, I wonder why that is??? Don’t you really try to get a prosecutor to look into something that is allegedly criminal BEFORE you contact the Pentagon??? What are they supposed to do anyway, invade Pennsylvania Avenue or something???

She may as well have contacted the Military Authorities about phony Moon Landings. Rondeau got the response that she knew she would get, and now she gets to play Birther Victim, and get some tears and group hugs from the other indignant Birthers.

Whatever.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is the beautiful Patricia Laffin in her role as The Devil Girl From Mars (1954).

Did The Whistleblower Give Orly Taitz The Slip???

She Wanted To Believe So Badly,  That She Swallowed It Hook, Line, And Sinker

A little over two months ago,  on June 19, 2013, Orly Taitz went to a Tea Party rally in Washington D.C. where she met someone [allegedly named Laurie Hathaway]  who claimed to be an employee of HESC, a student loan servicing company.  She  told Taitz that she had copies of papers showing that Obama attended Columbia as a foreign student, from Indonesia. Then, the Whistleblower disappeared for a few days, and then reappeared, then went silent again.

The Birther Think Tank did 4 separate articles on the Whistleblower, which are linked in Note 2, below. The last one of those articles was on July 11, 2013. I never put much credence in the story, and have been keeping an eye on Taitz’s website to see if anything definite ever surfaced.  If I have successfully navigated her confusing website, where her every random thought seems to generate a post, there are five more articles on the Whistleblower, and one duplicative “press release” which I omitted.

To make it easier to read, I have liberally copied and pasted from her website, with the link back to her website. On August 10, she indicates that she managed to get back in touch with her contact, who was supposedly under FBI surveillance and harassment. This is evident from paragraphs 10, 11, and 12 of her affidavit to Darrell Issa, which I bolded, and from the title of the post which is underlined:

ONE – August 10, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 10, 2013 | 22 Comments

Press release
Law Offices of Orly Taitz

(Title) Evidence of terror and harassment of the HESC whistle blower Laurie Hathaway who provided Attorney Orly Taitz with evidence of Barack Obama, citizen of Indonesia,  in his capacity of a foreign student, receiving educational loan from the HESC. request for the US Congress to investigate fraud committed by Obama and investigate employees of the FBI, Department of Justice, other governmental employees and judges aiding and abetting Obama and harassing and terrorizing law abiding citizens and whistle blowers.

DR. ORLY TAITZ ESQ
PRESIDENT
DEFEND OUR FREEDOMS FOUNDATION
29839 SANTA MARGARITA PKWY, STE 100
RANCHO SANTA MARGARITA CA 92688

Darrell Issa
Chair of the House Oversight Committee
Re Harassment and intimidation of the whistle blowers by the FBI.
Request for help and assistance.

SWORN AFFIDAVIT OF ATTORNEY ORLY TAITZ

1. My name is Orly Taitz. I am a licensed attorney and a licensed Doctor of Dental Surgery. As an attorney and an officer of the court I swear under the penalty of perjury that all of the information below is true and correct and to the best of my knowledge and informed consent.

2. I am a President of Defend our Freedoms Foundation which is designed to preserve the constitutional freedoms of the U.S. citizens. In my youth I lived in the communist dictatorship of the Soviet Union and I am greatly concerned about the loss of the constitutional freedoms of the US citizens in the past few years.

3. In May of 2013 I participated at a Washington DC rally organized by a number of the US congressmen protesting the mega amnesty of millions of illegals that is currently pushed by the Democratic party as well as targeting of the conservative organizations by the IRS.

4. At the rally I met a whistle blower, employee of the HESC -Higher Education Services Corporation, Ms. Laurie Hathaway.

5. Ms. Hathaway advised me that  she is desperately trying to provide the public with evidence of fraud committed by Barack Obama, specifically the fact that Barack Obama received an educational loan from HESC as a foreign citizen, a citizen of Indonesia. As a citizen of Indonesia he is not eligible to be the U.S. President. Ms. Hathaway stated that she forwarded this information to Sheriff Arpaio as well.

6. Ms. Hathaway has sworn to me that she personally saw the documents, showing Barack Obama listed as a foreign national, citizen of Indonesia in his loan documents.

7. Ms. Hathaway stated that the documents are never discarded and are kept in the vault at the HESC head quarters at Buffalo, New York. She advised me that other employees of the HESC saw the same documents and aware of Obama’s loans received based on his status of a foreign student and fraud committed by Obama in asserting his eligibility for the U.S. Presidency claiming the U.S. citizenship, while retaining the Indonesian citizenship.

8. I did my due diligence and checked and verified that Laurie Hathaway is indeed an employee of HESC in Buffalo, New York. I have in my position her e-mail address at the HESC and other identifying information.

9. Ms. Hathaway promised to obtain a copy of the document and forward it to me.

10. After the meeting I had one or two phone conversations with Ms. Hathaway and received one or two e-mails from her.

11. Shortly thereafter Ms. Hathaway’s cell phone was disconnected and nobody responded at her home number.

12. On 08.10.2013 I tried to contact her again. As I was leaving a message for her, a man answered the phone. The man sounded very frightened and asked me not to call or e-mail Ms. Hathaway because FBI is investigating  Ms. Hathaway because she blew the whistle and provided information to me. They are afraid of the FBI. This phone conversation took place at 10:59 am, PST on 08.10.2013.

13. Intimidation and harassment of the whistle blower Laurie Hathaway by Holder Department of Justice and Mueller/Comey FBI is akin to the intimidation of citizens by the Hitler NAZI Gestapo or SS troops. This nation is rapidly becoming another NAZI tyranny, unless this is stopped by someone in the  U.S. Congress or Judiciary who still retains one drop of decency, integrity, moral values and respect for the rule of law and the Constitution.  

I am attaching herein a 146 file of additional evidence showing the citizen of Indonesia, Barack Obama, using a stolen Social Security number and fabricated IDs as a basis of his identity  and eligibility to the U.S. Presidency and in order to defraud the U.S. citizens and usurp the position of the U.S. President and Commander-in Chief based on fraud, harassment, intimidation and use of multiple agencies of the U.S. government for purposes of terror an harassment of whistle blowers. I am prepared to testify before the U.S. Congress and attest to the authenticity of each and every document in the file as well as provide names of multiple other whistle blowers against Obama being terrorized and intimidated by the Department of Justice/FBI, other governmental officials, as well as by a number of state and federal judges.  

I am requesting an immediate investigation by the U.S. Congress of  the fact that a citizen of Indonesia, Barack Obama, is usurping the U.S. Presidency based on fraud, harassment,  intimidation and use of  stolen and fabricated IDs. I am also requesting a congressional investigation of the employees of the U.S. government, including employees of the Department of Justice and the FBI, federal and State judges, who are criminally complicit in the cover up of Obama’s fraudulent IDs and criminally complicit in terror and harassment of the whistle blowers who provided the aforementioned information to me.

End of Affidavit.

 Dr. Orly Taitz, ESQ

08.10.2013

Another problem seems to have arisen. In her original affidavit of June 19, 2013, Taitz said:

6.   Whistleblower stated that she and several other employees made copies of the aforementioned foreign student record for Mr. Obama in case someone in the corporation management decides to destroy the original records.

I read that as meaning the Whistleblower had her own copy of the alleged documents. Now, look at paragraphs 6 and 9 above:

6. Ms. Hathaway has sworn to me that she personally saw the documents, showing Barack Obama listed as a foreign national, citizen of Indonesia in his loan documents.

9. Ms. Hathaway promised to obtain a copy of the document and forward it to me.

It doesn’t look like the Whistleblower actually has the paperwork. Next, in response to some criticism of her story, she made this post the next day on August 11, 2013:

TWO – August 11, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 11, 2013 | 1 Comment

(Title)   More information regarding HESC employee, whistle blower Laurie Hathaway, who is being harassed by the FBI due to the fact that she provided Attorney Orly Taitz information on Obama’s Indonesian citizenship and the fact that he received  HESC foreign citizen student loans

Some Obama operatives have attacked me, claiming that information regarding FBI investigation of HESC employee Laurie Hathaway is not true. They are claiming this for the following reasons:

a. the phone call was made on Saturday and HESC is closed on Saturday

b. FBI does not tell employees that they are being investigated.

c. HESC is in New York and would not be dealing with records from Occidental college

here is the response from attorney Orly Taitz:

a. the call was made not to HESC, but to Laurie’s home phone number, land line, which she gave me and I have in my possession. Last 2 digits are “76″

b. FBI questions individuals whom they investigate, as such Laurie knows that she is being investigated

c. Barack Obama was a resident of New York state while he studied at Columbia University, which is located in New York City. There are millions of individuals around the country who are residents of different states while on green card, student visas and so on and who are citizens of other countries. Keep in mind, Obama was removed from his mother’s passport when he obtained his Indonesian citizenship.

After this post, The Albany Times Union ran a story on Taitz and the HESC Whistleblower,  (See Note 3, below.) prompting this outburst:

Three – August 13, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 13, 2013 | 5 Comments

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(Title)   HESC admits that Laurie Hathaway indeed an employee there, but claims not to have Obama’s records

Mr. Seiler
you wrote a defamatory article and did not include any documents

1. I demand that you provide your readers with actual documents
Please, see attached Obama’s record from Columbia university
I obtained it from the Student Clearing house. Military officer
Pamela Barnett received the same records. It shows Obama lying
about the length of his education in Columbia university. If you
look at the bottom of the page, you will see that he went to
Columbia for only 9 months, not 2 years, as he claims in his
biography. The question is, why is he lying about it? Please,
contact Columbia university and inquier about this record

2. I misspoke by stating Buffalo, NY, instead of Albany NY.
Ms. Hathaway works in Albany and she personally saw the records
there.

I believe HESC used the error in the name of the city to obfuscate
the records. I reside in CA, not in NY, and I did not know about HESC or Laurie
Hathaway.

3. There are other employees who saw Obama’s records. There is an
employee by first name Nick, he works with Laurie Hathaway.

Next,  in post number Four, Taitz appeals for her Flying Monkeys to find someone named “Nick,” who works with the Whistleblower and may have a copy of the documents. In paragraph 4, she is trying to find out if the FBI is investigating the Whistleblower which indicates to me that she once again lost contact with her.

FOUR – August 13, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 13, 2013 | 8 Comments

(Title)   HESC in Albany New York admitted that whistle blower Laurie Hathaway indeed works for them, but claim that they do not have records of  foreign student  loans for Obama or Soetoro.

Laurie Hathaway, whistle blower from HESC gave Taitz a name of yet another employee by name Nick, who works with her and who, also, examined Obama’s foreign student loan documents.

I am asking my supporters to contact HESC and request clarification, whether:

1. HESC does not have records now, but they might have existed before or whether

2.they have records of all loans received  from 1979 until now  and among all of these loans there was never a loan given to a student by last name Obama or Soetoro or Soebarkah or Bounel.

3. seek a response from Obama. As Obama states that he finished paying his student loans only in 2004, he admitted that he received student loans and the public would like to know from which institutions did he get student loans or grants, specifically in light of revelations by the whistle blower . As Obama stated that he came from a poor family and he went to all expensive private schools: Punahoa high school, Occidental college, Columbia university and Harvard, there should be multiple loans. Where did he get those loans?

4. contact Albany NY FBI and request information, whether they are investigating a whistle blower Laurie Hathaway for blowing the whistle on Obama and HESC and alerting an attorney that Obama received a student loan from HESC as a foreign student and is hiding this information and HESC is hiding this information from the public as well.

Finally, by August 14, 2013 the Whistleblower’s FaceBook page is down and Taitz is trying to make contact with some of her friends.

FIVE – August 14, 2013 Post

Posted on | August 14, 2013 | 15 Comments

(Title)   Can someone get in touch with Jocelyn Levy, who works with Laurie Hathaway at HESC, and see if she has a copy of Obama’s foreign student loan documents

Hathaway’s facebook page is deleted but three of her friends are Jocelyn levy (works at same place), cherylynn brewer, janet sweener. also work at same place Kimberly king, brenda eipp, kim vacc, bill ridings, anita norton Phillips, john j mullen , Karen Davidson Larsen, lori reinhart.

My GUESS is, that Laurie Hathaway is no longer available to Taitz, and is probably hiding out from her. It also looks like the incriminating documents don’t yet have an earthly manifestation. Thus, the question I asked in my first article on this seems to be answered. Taitz found a Smokeblower, not a Whistleblower.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is the actress, Linda Lovelace, from a 1972 movie about Watergate, called Deep Throat. Which two years later caused President Nixon to resign. I have not seen the movie, but I think she played the Whistleblower part.

Note 2. Previous Whistleblower Articles: Here they are in chronological order:

Did Orly Taitz Find A Whistleblower Or A Smokeblower???

Whistle Stop Or Obot Prank???

Taitz’s Whistleblower Still Blowing!!!

Where Oh Where Can The Whistleblower Be???

Note 3. The Albany Times Union Story:  I am not sure what she is complaining about. The story was pretty neutral. It may be found here:

http://www.timesunion.com/local/article/Birther-Proof-is-in-agency-s-safe-4729488.php

Note 4. For ESLs. The Image Easter Egg is a word play on “getting hosed” which can mean getting taken in by a con artist, or putting on hosiery as in the picture.  To “swallow” a story is to believe it, when perhaps one shouldn’t.   To accept without question, protest, or resentment.  <swallow an insult> <a hard story to swallow>

Hook, line, and sinker is an idiomatic phrase meaning totally or completely.  She fell for our story hook, line, and sinker. They believed every word hook, line, and sinker.

Cato Institute Busts Birthers’ Chops!!!

Kato Tries To Slap Some Sense Into An Unidentified Birther

Ilya Shapiro of The Cato Institute, a libertarian think tank, busted the chops of the two citizen parents with a recent post on Ted Cruz’s eligibility. Here are a few excerpts:

What’s a “natural born citizen”? The Constitution doesn’t say, but the Framers’ understanding, combined with statutes enacted by the First Congress, indicate that the phrase means both birth abroad to American parents — in a manner regulated by federal law — and birth within the nation’s territory regardless of parental citizenship. The Supreme Court has confirmed that definition on multiple occasions in various contexts.

There’s no ideological debate here: Harvard law professor Laurence Tribe and former solicitor general Ted Olson — who were on opposite sides in Bush v. Gore among other cases — co-authored a memorandum in March 2008 detailing the above legal explanation in the context of John McCain’s eligibility. Recall that McCain — lately one of Cruz’s chief antagonists — was born to U.S. citizen parents serving on a military base in the Panama Canal Zone.

In other words, anyone who is a citizen at birth — as opposed to someone who becomes a citizen later (“naturalizes”) or who isn’t a citizen at all — can be president.

So the one remaining question is whether Ted Cruz was a citizen at birth. That’s an easy one. The Nationality Act of 1940 outlines which children become “nationals and citizens of the United States at birth.” In addition to those who are born in the United States or born outside the country to parents who were both citizens — or, interestingly, found in the United States without parents and no proof of birth elsewhere — citizenship goes to babies born to one American parent who has spent a certain number of years here.

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/yes-ted-cruz-can-be-president

Of course, Ted Cruz meets those qualifications! Sooo, my hat is off to a fellow Think Tanker for getting it right!

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1. The Image. This is Bruce Lee playing the role of Kato in The Green Hornet TV series. I am not sure who the guy in the mask is. Just for what it is worth trivia-wise, the Green Hornet was a relative of The Lone Ranger!

Note 2. Busting Chops. For ESLs, the Free Dictionary defines chops, and busting someone’s chops  as:

chops (chps) pl.n.
1. The jaws.
2.a. The mouth.
b. The lower cheeks or jowls.
c. Muttonchops.
3. Slang The technical skill with which a jazz or rock musician performs.

Idiom: bust (someone’s) chops
1. To scold or insult someone.
2. To disappoint or defeat someone.
3. To hold a building contractor to the letter of an agreement.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/chops

The Image Easter Egg is a word play on the “Oh Hai” Internet meme, and the word “Hai” which is loudly expressed during Karate and Kung Fu strikes. “Hai” means “yes” in Japanese.

Jim Robinson Fires Cruz Missile At Free Republic Birthers!!!

It May Have Looked Like A Destroyer, But It Was Really A Cruz Ship

The Free Republic Birthers got a wake up call yesterday from Jim Robinson, the crusty owner of the website.  On a thread about the individual who made a Birther out of himself at a Mark Levin book signing,  Judge Robinson settled the Ted Cruz eligibility question for the Freepers:

Jim Robinson at Comment 43: Ted Cruz was born to an American mother. He’s a natural born citizen and patriot in every sense of the word and I will support him to the hilt if he decides to run and is the strongest conservative running!! In fact, if that happens, FR will be Cruz Country!!

Go, TED, GO!!

FU Tokyo Rove, Chris Cristy, Jeb Bush, McCain, McBoehner, McGrahammesty, McFlake, McConnell and ALL GOP-e RINOS!!

The tea party rebellion is on!!

Anyone can’t live with that (as the say in Russia) tough shitski!!

and, when hit with the typical Birther ” But we’re just constitutionalists!” claims:

Jim Robinson at Comment 89: I’m upholding my oath. Cruz is a natural born citizen despite any claims to the contrary from the legions of internet “sea lawyers!”

and again, when asked, “Do you intend to ban those Conservatives that disagree with you on this matter”

Jim Robinson at Comment 91: Depends on the degree of nastiness. Don’t get nasty against our freepers or our conservative candidates.

and, when pushed some more:

Jim Robinson at 126: I said if Cruz is the strongest conservative running. But neither Cruz or Palin have declared. We’ll have to wait and see. And as far as I’m concerned, I’ll go with Levin and others who say Cruz is a natural born citizen.

Robinson had more to say, but I just wanted to provide enough to get across the gist of what happened. Here is a link to the thread.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3059395/posts

I was once a Freeper, but when I jumped on the two citizen parents Birthers there, I got the ZOT! There is a link in Note 1 below to the article I wrote in response, which has some undercover photos of the Freeper Birthers in full whine mode.  Jim Robinson has several problems on his hands, and not easy ones to solve. He has flatly decreed, and correctly, that Ted Cruz is eligible. Yet, he has not come right out and told the Birthers to knock off all the “two citizen parents” stuff.

By the very nature of things, it is not the “birth certificate” Birthers who have a problem with Cruz, unless they are also “two citizen parents” type Birthers.  And frankly, the two citizen parents Birthers are beyond reasoning with. They have repeatedly lost in court, and are not fazed.  Their argument is nonsensical to begin with. What person with a functioning brain really believes that Emer de Vattel is the source of American citizenship law??? Yet, they persist in the silliness.

What reasonably intelligent person can’t read the Wong Kim Ark (WKA) case a half dozen times and get the point, that the 14th Amendment put natural born citizenship for those born inside the country into the Constitution, where it would be safe from both either state and Congressional tinkering? It make take several readings, but goodness, two of the seven sections are dedicated to natural born subjects and natural born citizens. Another section is dedicated to showing how the 14th Amendment affirms and incorporates that previous law into itself. And still, the two citizen parents birthers are out there trying to defeat an 1898 SCOTUS holding with a 1758 legal treatise by a Swiss guy. Or some legal dictionary they found at a garage sale. Or, some case prior to 1898, which even if they were reading it correctly, would be reversed by WKA.

To paraphrase John Donne, from his Love’s Alchemy poem, “Hope not for mind [reason] in Birthers!” And to make it worse, it is not as if the Obots and Anti-Birthers aren’t doing their best to educate the poor addled two citizen parents birthers.  We write words enough to stretch to Pluto and back, and they still ignore us.  Jim Robinson is delusional if he thinks anything short of banning them or completely censoring them for preaching their nonsense is going to stop them.

That is where his second problem comes in. Because the longer they preach the “two citizen parents” nonsense, the more it sinks into the minds of low information voters. It will not matter to many of them that the nonsense is being presented against Obama, and not against conservative candidates. They will repeat the nonsense as if they know what they are talking about, and then refuse to vote for people like Bobby Jindal, Marc Rubio, or Ted Cruz. If he cares about his conservative causes, Robinson must tell them to knock off all the two citizen parents nonsense period, or get banned.  He has already let this nonsense go on for too long, and the longer it goes on, the worse it gets for Cruz and others.

Finally, he has the problem of how to go about banning or zotting them with a straight face.  He had no problem setting forth restrictions on rampant paranoia like Alex Jones’ Prison Planet, and overtly sovereign citizen theories. He didn’t let that stuff ever take hold at his website. It is different with the Birthers because he shares responsibility for letting them get to this point. At Free Republic they formed a clique and went around screaming Troll! and Obot! at people who disagreed with them.  Some of us got zotted. Free Republic became Birther friendly territory.

And fertile ground it was. Some of the dumbest Birthers I ever met  took root and grew at Free Republic, including but not limited to: Edge919, DiogenesLamp, and Butterdezillion. Robinson should have put his foot down a long time ago, the same as he would have if a group was telling Freepers they didn’t have to pay income taxes. But he didn’t,  and now the place is full of them.

In summary, half measures won’t work, the Birthers continue to do damage to the conservative cause, and they are in large enough numbers that it will hurt the website to ZOT! them all.  The best alternative I can see is for him to resort to outright censorship. He needs to flatly state that the two citizen parent stuff is complete bullsh*t,  and anybody who preaches it, and misleads other conservatives, even if it is in relation to Obama, is going to get the ZOT!.

It should be interesting to watch.

Squeeky Fromm
Girl Reporter

Note 1.  Squeeky’s Free Republic ZOT!: Like I said above, there are photographs of the Birthers!

https://birtherthinktank.wordpress.com/2012/02/09/zot-free-republic-birthers-run-in-panic-stricken-terror-from-the-truth/